StumpHunter wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:15 am
What washed up players? Outside of Waynes (who I wasn't a big fan of anyway, you were the one pounding the table to keep him I believe)
I never once said Waynes was a washed up player. I would have kept Waynes and I did want to keep him but never did I want to make him the 7th highest paid CB in the league and pay him $42 million. The washed up players I was referring to were Rhodes and Griffen.
every one of the players I wanted to keep played better than the guy who replaced them by a significant margin.
Then clearly you didnt read my post very closely because that is false. Sure Rhodes played better THIS year in a new system with a fresh start. In terms of Rhodes being here, since 2017 his play has done nothing but go in reverse.....hard. And the guys that replaced him actually did outplay his 2019 season....by a significant margin. Hell, Dantzler played better this year that Rhodes has in his last two with the Vikings....by a significant margin. You can use this years numbers all you want, but Rhodes clearly needed a fresh start because what he was being asked to do here, he could clearly no longer do and it was getting worse by the game. If you dont see that, idk what to tell you.
I am not going to continue to argue with you that water is wet. A single player taking up an average of 13% of the cap has a huge impact on a team's ability to sign free agents and keep their own players. Arguing otherwise is a bad look.
I could honestly care less how I am looked at by you. It literally means nothing to me. You want to talk about bad looks but you were the one that just posted an offseason with Case Keenum and Jordan Love in it, 3 high priced free agents and Stefon Diggs still on the team, plus a million extensions. I'm starting to think that you believe Cousins is taking up 75% of the cap space because idk where all this freed up money is coming from that you claim we somehow would have to afford all that.
We have the QB position solved? I guess, if having a QB who is consistently "not the problem" on the team and needs excuse after excuse for him each year is solving the QB position. Personally, I look at the teams in the playoffs, particularly the final 4 teams and don't feel we have that position close to being solved.
But somehow Case Keenum (for what would be going on 4 straight years now) solves that problem? Like I said, you of all people have now held onto Case keenum (of all people) for 4 years. And over that time span, you would've been completely content with that? And not draft a QB until 2020? Who is a gigantic project? Ha.....
Dumping Cousins and starting over solves the majority of our cap issues, if not necessarily our QB issue, which does bring us one step closer to the SB. It also frees the team up to make real moves to improve the QB spot, something that also gets us a step closer. As long as Cousins is on the team, we won't be a QB away from winning it all. We will be a cap strapped team that is a QB, a RG, LG, DT, DE, CB and whatever else we are missing because Cousins takes up too much of the cap to sign anyone at those spots away from the SB.
All it frees up is space for us to sign a bunch of high priced free agents which Spielman never does nor have I ever been a fan of doing that. It frees up space for what else? To keep Xavier Rhodes on this team until he starts getting burned by fullbacks on deep routes? To keep Everson Griffen as a full time starter when he's much closer to being a situational pass rusher at this point? To keep Mac Alexander who didnt want to be on this team to begin with because of what our COACH did? To keep Waynes on this team so we could overpay him and watch everyone bitc# about it? To keep Diggs on this team and watch him continue to bitc# because no matter what QB we had right now, we'd still be in a run heavy scheme and he's still be getting overshadowed by Cook and Thielen. All so we could hold Case Keenum for 4 years and draft Jordan Love.....
Diggs was okay with it in 2015 and 2017 and it didn't seem to become an issue until his overpaid QB proved he couldn't handle a pass happy scheme in 2018. A scheme you blamed the majority of the issues in 2018 on then, but want to go back to now. But keep blaming everyone but the QB for the QB's failings. Can't wait to see who you blame for his failing in 2022 when Zimmer is gone and they replace him with an offensive minded coach who still can't make Cousins a winner.
I dont think this could possibly be more false.
1.) Did you really just say he was okay with it in 2015? His rookie year? Have you ever, in your lifetime seen a rookie WR complain about the scheme his team was running? I honestly cant even believe you just tried pulling that one. As for 2017, yeah that was right before shi# hit the fan. I've brought this up a million times. Diggs NEVER acted out prior to two things, the Minneapolis Miracle and when he got paid. He was a stand up guy until his head blew up to the size of a beach ball and he got paid (just to then see Thielen receive a contract that trumped his, which I guarantee you, also ticked him off). Hell even 2018 he was fine.
2.) In 2018 it became an issue? Really? You have it all as# backwards man. I dont once recall Diggs complaining about much of anything in 2018. Why? Because it was the most he was ever targeted in his career. It was the biggest season of his career. I have gone over this time and time again on here and you continue to ignore and point the finger at Cousins just because you want to blame Cousins for every possible thing under the sun. You cant stand him and the fact that he's on this team. It's been obvious for years now. The complaining by Diggs started in 2019 when they switched to a run heavy scheme. Where he then gets overshadowed by Thielen (for part of the season) and Cook more than he already did.
Think about it, in 2018 he has a huge season (149 targets and 102 catches) and we miss the playoffs....did he say a word? No. That's WITH Kirk Cousins AND a full year with Adam Thielen on the field.
In 2019, we switch to a run heavy scheme, he doesnt get near the amount of targets or catches (94 targets and 63 catches) and we MAKE the playoffs with Thielen being out half the year.
So our #1 WR ends up being out most of the year in 2019 and Diggs still had much lower numbers than 2018. Diggs KNOWS Cousins is more than capable of getting him the ball, at a very high rate no less. Clearly he did that in 2018 with another stud WR right across from him. So did you ever think that Diggs is probably not bothered by Cousins himself, he bothered by the scheme that doesnt call his number nearly as much as he wants. Diggs doesnt doubt Cousins ability, he doubted what the Vikings were using for a scheme. Which just further shows his selfishness because in 2019 we actually made the playoffs and had a solid year as a team. 2018 wasnt the case....but he got his fix so what did he care?
3.) I'm going to tell you one last time....stop twisting my words to try and help your argument. I did NOT say I wanted to go back to what we did in 2018 scheme wise. Go back and actually look what I wrote when I posted the podcast. I couldnt stand how Flip ran his offense. He phased Cook and Murray out of the game practically. Their problem is, they try to use the run early, get a lead and try to sustain that lead all game with it. If they dont have the lead, they pass heavy in the 2nd half because their approach failed. The run early approach isnt getting them that lead they need nearly as often as you'd like. Especially when you have a swiss cheese depleted defense that cant stop anyone from scoring. Their approach to each game was so predictable. This isnt something you're going to see in the box scores all the time. It comes down to game script and overall approach from a coaching standpoint. Kirk is one of the better pure passers in the NFL. Dont sit there and tell me he "cant handle a pass heavy scheme". Bottom line is, he shouldnt have to handle a pass heavy scheme, we have Dalvin Cook. I'm not asking for a pass heavy scheme. I'm asking for creativity, taking chances, keeping defenses on their toes, etc. Not running Dalvin Cook more than any RB in the NFL in the first quarter hoping you can get a lead, relying on playing good defense the rest of the game (which you couldnt do anyways this year) and continuing to run Dalvin until the final whistle blows as he's beaten to a pulp. Dalvin Cook will be lucky to see two more years in this league if that's what Zims approach is going to be.
Again all this stuff goes back to one thing....coaching. You want Kirk Cousins gone and are defending Mike Zimmer when it's Mike Zimmer that constantly seems to be the problem in these situations.
I dont recall anyone really blaming this season on Kirk Cousins....except you now. Which doesnt surprise me. He could win a SB and you'd find a loop hole like you always do to say he's not deserving of that trophy. Mike Zimmer has been wearing on me since week 1. Even somewhat prior to that. I've made that very clear on here. I have no reason to defend Kirk Cousins. If I have no problem ripping Zimmer, why wouldnt I rip Cousins? Because I dont think Cousins is the problem. I'm so sick of having all this talent year after year that Spielman brings in and have a QB that's plenty solid enough to get it done and get nowhere because we're living in 1992 offensively, we're stubborn when it comes to getting the best players on the field, we're conservative in every facet of the game and so on.
Hey pal....that "stat" isnt actually a stat because there has NOT been any talk at all between the 49ers and Vikings regarding a trade according to Adam Schefter. Stat's are actual facts. This indeed is not one. 
