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Maelstrom88 wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:30 pm The Saints are 13-1 under the ref crew we are getting Sunday. :wtf:
And for this game they will be getting all booth review decisions in New York from a new designated special playoff assignment replay official. His name is Pete Morelli.
Saints will receive 6 challenges per half, and also 1 additional time out per half to allow Bighead Baby Sean the opportunity to wipe all the tears from his crying eyes.
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Maelstrom88 wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:30 pm The Saints are 13-1 under the ref crew we are getting Sunday. :wtf:
Oh god.
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U have to be kidding.
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Pondering Her Percy wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2019 12:02 pm
CharVike wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2019 10:09 am
I don't know the Saints team very well but if their CBs are a push with ours then their secondary isn't very good. I'm not sure why our DL is rated higher. Has anyone seen the amount of yards our team gives up in the ground game. A team getting 100 is almost a given. A good team it's 200+. If our DL is better we should be able to run at will on them. This could be a Falcon deal all over again 10 pass attempts. No need to even bother throwing. Just with that we should win.
As for Cousins being afraid he better be. Their pass rush will destroy our crappy OL. If the Saints are smart enough to put Jordan on Reif there's a good chance Cousins will be knocked out. No way Reif can block this guy. Straight path to the QB. So yea he's afraid.
What helps us is Brees isn't a runner. They need to bring pressure big time. I hope Zim sees this and brings it. If not Brees will pick our secondary apart. At least for half the game which will make it close.
Their secondary is not great at all and our 2 DEs alone make us a better DL IMO
Unfortunately I don’t believe our DEs are going to have a huge role in this game.

Brees simply gets the ball out too fast for DEs to get to him. The way to get to Brees is with pressure up the middle. His short stature makes it difficult for him to make throws if there’s pressure in his face. Maybe the Vikes use Odenigbo at DT on sub packages for obvious passing downs. IDK, but we need to get pressure up the middle.
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WRT to the officiating crew - if anybody here thinks for a minute that the NFL is going to let the Minnesota Vikings come out of this game as the winner you are seriously delusional. God I wish I was wrong, but we all know the Saints are still the good news story and media darling. Brees is great - no doubt, and there is no way the League can handle the idea of him not in a clash of titans between him and Rodgers or Galapagos in the NFCCG.

On a side note - I have been a Vikings fan since 1971 and have suffered like many here (Joe Kapp, etc..), and have waited for that golden moment when I knew we were the chosen ones. That happened on Digg's catch against the Saints in 17. I said out loud after I calmed down that we were going to win the Super Bowl. It was a sign from providence and all the chips were on our side - momentum, home stadium, awesome talent, etc.. Look at what happened. At the time I said if we don't do it now we never will. Well, welcome to never men. Until we can muster a coaching staff that has an almost barbaric lack of compassion, and sense of aggressiveness that would make the Waffen-SS look pedestrian we will never intimidate anybody, nor have players believing that 31 other teams are terrified of them.

There's still time for me to be wrong, and I hope one day I am, but I don't see the Wilf's having the blood lust to get a staff and roster together that can do that.

Happy New Year and enjoy the last game of the 2019 season. :yawn:
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Drew Brees completed a league-high 74.3% of his passes to fall one-tenth of a percent short of the 74.4% mark he himself set last year. This year's Vikings team is ranked 27th in opponents’ completion percentage (.656) only ahead of the Chargers (.707), Colts (.701), Cardinals (.700), Redskins (.687) and Giants (.664)
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VikeFanInEagleLand wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2019 9:30 pm Drew Brees completed a league-high 74.3% of his passes to fall one-tenth of a percent short of the 74.4% mark he himself set last year. This year's Vikings team is ranked 27th in opponents’ completion percentage (.656) only ahead of the Chargers (.707), Colts (.701), Cardinals (.700), Redskins (.687) and Giants (.664)
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Trkn10 wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2019 9:27 pm WRT to the officiating crew - if anybody here thinks for a minute that the NFL is going to let the Minnesota Vikings come out of this game as the winner you are seriously delusional. God I wish I was wrong, but we all know the Saints are still the good news story and media darling. Brees is great - no doubt, and there is no way the League can handle the idea of him not in a clash of titans between him and Rodgers or Galapagos in the NFCCG.

On a side note - I have been a Vikings fan since 1971 and have suffered like many here (Joe Kapp, etc..), and have waited for that golden moment when I knew we were the chosen ones. That happened on Digg's catch against the Saints in 17. I said out loud after I calmed down that we were going to win the Super Bowl. It was a sign from providence and all the chips were on our side - momentum, home stadium, awesome talent, etc.. Look at what happened. At the time I said if we don't do it now we never will. Well, welcome to never men. Until we can muster a coaching staff that has an almost barbaric lack of compassion, and sense of aggressiveness that would make the Waffen-SS look pedestrian we will never intimidate anybody, nor have players believing that 31 other teams are terrified of them.

There's still time for me to be wrong, and I hope one day I am, but I don't see the Wilf's having the blood lust to get a staff and roster together that can do that.

Happy New Year and enjoy the last game of the 2019 season. :yawn:
Sadly, I agree that the NFL will do everything they can to make sure the Saints win this game. They definitely have darling teams.
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Trkn10 wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2019 9:27 pm WRT to the officiating crew - if anybody here thinks for a minute that the NFL is going to let the Minnesota Vikings come out of this game as the winner you are seriously delusional. God I wish I was wrong, but we all know the Saints are still the good news story and media darling. Brees is great - no doubt, and there is no way the League can handle the idea of him not in a clash of titans between him and Rodgers or Galapagos in the NFCCG.

On a side note - I have been a Vikings fan since 1971 and have suffered like many here (Joe Kapp, etc..), and have waited for that golden moment when I knew we were the chosen ones. That happened on Digg's catch against the Saints in 17. I said out loud after I calmed down that we were going to win the Super Bowl. It was a sign from providence and all the chips were on our side - momentum, home stadium, awesome talent, etc.. Look at what happened. At the time I said if we don't do it now we never will. Well, welcome to never men. Until we can muster a coaching staff that has an almost barbaric lack of compassion, and sense of aggressiveness that would make the Waffen-SS look pedestrian we will never intimidate anybody, nor have players believing that 31 other teams are terrified of them.

There's still time for me to be wrong, and I hope one day I am, but I don't see the Wilf's having the blood lust to get a staff and roster together that can do that.

Happy New Year and enjoy the last game of the 2019 season. :yawn:
I don't think the NFL cares if the Saints win again. They did their Katrina feel good story in 2009 and probably prefer the 9ers or Packers to represent the NFC.
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Here’s a stat for you.

The last eight 10-win No. 6 seeds have a combined record of 6-2 in Wild Card games.

We’re a lock!
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Fully expecting a loss. This was the worst possible scenario. Saints are the hottest team in the NFC, with the most unrecoverable receiver in the league against a secondary that's been getting beat all season (specifically the guy that'll probably be assigned to Thomas), on the road, Saints out for revenge and most likely with the refs in their pockets. The NFL does not want yet another black eye at the expense of the Saints. Payton is a much better big-game coach, Brees far outplays Cousins in big games and the Vikings are cursed, so even if they find themselves in the game late, Bailey WILL miss the game-winner.
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Just watch a preview of this game on youtube. As I have said I don't know this team at all. This Jordan guy will line up opposite Reif. The highlights showed him coming from the right. They better get this garbage Reif help big time. And they better get a guy ready to step in. Jordan will abuse him. He already is physically beat and once the action starts mentally he will also be beat. This will make passing an extremely difficult task for us. But otherwise our Ds are almost mirror imagines. Hunter needs a big game, On offense the Saints have one WR. He can't smoke you so jam his arse right off the bat. This back the Saints have is dam good. He'll smoke us in the passing game along with running. Plus this Cook TE can move. He can split us. The key will be pressure.
Our Cook is a dam impressive back. When that balls in his hands look out. He's the guy that makes our O go. Without him it hurts big time. I don't know what the issue is but he hasn't avg over 4 YPC a game since week 8. That sucks. That's half the season he's disappeared. There's more going on than a shoulder. I highly doubt a few weeks rest will get him back. Maybe the early load was too much for him. But he needs to give us the early version and he may be the most important piece of this run screen offense. Not might he IS. This game is about as even as it can get. Being on the road hurts. But my main concern is this stiff Reif. He'll drag the entire offense down. A blocking dummy would be more effective but I don't think that's allowed. I fully expect a blind side strip from Jordan because the guy has great movement. He must be licking his chops. Once our season is over this stiff Reiff needs to hit the door. Tell him once the plane lands get off the property and don't come back.
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StumpHunter wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2019 9:43 pm
Trkn10 wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2019 9:27 pm WRT to the officiating crew - if anybody here thinks for a minute that the NFL is going to let the Minnesota Vikings come out of this game as the winner you are seriously delusional. God I wish I was wrong, but we all know the Saints are still the good news story and media darling. Brees is great - no doubt, and there is no way the League can handle the idea of him not in a clash of titans between him and Rodgers or Galapagos in the NFCCG.

On a side note - I have been a Vikings fan since 1971 and have suffered like many here (Joe Kapp, etc..), and have waited for that golden moment when I knew we were the chosen ones. That happened on Digg's catch against the Saints in 17. I said out loud after I calmed down that we were going to win the Super Bowl. It was a sign from providence and all the chips were on our side - momentum, home stadium, awesome talent, etc.. Look at what happened. At the time I said if we don't do it now we never will. Well, welcome to never men. Until we can muster a coaching staff that has an almost barbaric lack of compassion, and sense of aggressiveness that would make the Waffen-SS look pedestrian we will never intimidate anybody, nor have players believing that 31 other teams are terrified of them.

There's still time for me to be wrong, and I hope one day I am, but I don't see the Wilf's having the blood lust to get a staff and roster together that can do that.

Happy New Year and enjoy the last game of the 2019 season. :yawn:
I don't think the NFL cares if the Saints win again. They did their Katrina feel good story in 2009 and probably prefer the 9ers or Packers to represent the NFC.
Stump you hit that right on the head. From an NFL point this 49er team is a great story and they can mix the Graopollo Patriot stuff in there. Almost like the Pats are playing. Even the Packer stuff works. Roger's is a media cream event and they'll put up some BS stuff that has nothing to do with football. The only thing we bring from their point is why the F are they here. There's no story. Maybe show Cousins and his family. What a bore for the average fan. Most don't even know who Cousins is. The ones that do see him as a joke that the Skins let walk because he's a loser. And they are partially correct. He only replaced a worse joke than him. I hope I see the day when we have our own guy that we picked and developed and he's a star. I won't live long enough for that #### to happen. I still think we will play them tough and give a good battle. But we can't do stupid stuff or fall behind. Once behind we don't have the talent to come back. That all starts with probably the worse OL in Football. Regardless of some worthless stat from new/old/next Gen. That OL can't pass block at all against a good team. Nothing. Reil, Elf and our Rookie shouldn't be starting at this level. The rook needed time to get a base. The other two are garbage. They all get blown up. Knocked over. Why do you think we can't beat a good team. Everything starts at the LOS.
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Yikes. I find that prospect pretty scary. I don't see Stefanski as a head coach-worthy assistant at this stage of his career.
Me neither. I think he's benefitted greatly from the presence of Kubiak and his posse. On the one hand, nothing ventured, nothing gained (I am not entirely against rolling the dice on a young, innovative, potential future star of a coach), but on the other... I just haven't seen enough from Stefanski to trust that he's worth the gamble. He's dropped the ball horribly in some huge games this year. As stated above, I also don't see evidence that the positive results on offense this year are directly/ mostly attributable to him, but rather to Kubiak and crew.

It's easy to say now, but Kyle Shanahan is the type of young guy I'd like to see us roll the dice on. He was even born in MPLS, so it would've been an awesome choice. But for all I know, Stefanski IS the next Kyle Shanahan. :confused:

Honestly, I really wish Zimmer would get over the hump. I chose his photo for my avatar for this site because there's a lot I like about the guy. His excessively conservative ("Puckered up") style when we need to be loose and aggressive does drive me nuts though.
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Texas Vike wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2020 9:23 am

Yikes. I find that prospect pretty scary. I don't see Stefanski as a head coach-worthy assistant at this stage of his career.
Me neither. I think he's benefitted greatly from the presence of Kubiak and his posse. On the one hand, nothing ventured, nothing gained (I am not entirely against rolling the dice on a young, innovative, potential future star of a coach), but on the other... I just haven't seen enough from Stefanski to trust that he's worth the gamble. He's dropped the ball horribly in some huge games this year. As stated above, I also don't see evidence that the positive results on offense this year are directly/ mostly attributable to him, but rather to Kubiak and crew.

It's easy to say now, but Kyle Shanahan is the type of young guy I'd like to see us roll the dice on. He was even born in MPLS, so it would've been an awesome choice. But for all I know, Stefanski IS the next Kyle Shanahan. :confused:

Honestly, I really wish Zimmer would get over the hump. I chose his photo for my avatar for this site because there's a lot I like about the guy. His excessively conservative ("Puckered up") style when we need to be loose and aggressive does drive me nuts though.
I'd like to see a younger guy also. Zimmer done some good things but he can't get us to the show. That's been proven. Besides all that I don't even see were Zimmer ever had a great background. I don't know every detail but his last stint was with the Bengals. Any stint with that team is not a good thing. It's not like Buddy Ryan hire. A guy that gets his D playing tough intimidating football. His Ds would take the game over. Even in Philly that D was dam good. We are middle of the road with few TOs. That's pathetic. Can't win anything with a D that plays like that. Good thing our road was easier. At least the Bears weren't anything that should have worried us. Very good D that took a dump this year. My worry is this F ing Packer squad. This new coach has changed them. Maybe we can get that guy. Hopefully Jones will give a kings ransom. It never will work that way for us. We might give just to keep Jones away. Imagine that BS. That's more likely.
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