See this is what I don’t get. Why does keenums play in Denver and Washington not count but kirks play in Washington does?? Because you even said, you looked at him coming in as a “loser”. Why? Because he didn’t “win” in Washington? Kirks worst year in Washington will be better than cases this year in Washington. Guys defending Keenum are sitting here saying “well Washington is a bad football team”. Ok? And they weren’t when Kirk was there? But everyone loves bringing up kirks record in Washington. That counts but keenums doesn’t?? How is that fair? It’s just baffling how much Keenum is “protected” by some Vikings fans. No different than how some protect teddy. Sure, 2017 was a fun year but 2017 was also filled with plenty of luck and a legit OC that knew how to balance an offense and keep a defense on their toes. We still don’t have that. We have still yet to replace patVikeFanInEagleLand wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2019 9:06 pm Look...I really wasn't in favor of the Cousins signing. I saw Cousins then (and even more now) as a loser. Granted, he has a lot of great tools and is capable of lofty stats, but a loser nonetheless. No one can really know what it would have been like to have Keenum for another year or even this year. You can't use his performance in Denver and Washington as proof that he wouldn't have had success here.
Here is what I do know. You can't be a winner if you're afraid to fail. Cousins is terrified of failure. Keenum isn't. Keenum has that same mentality that Farvre had. He didn't care if he threw 4 interceptions in his first 4 possessions. It didn't change the way he played. He didn't change in fear of throwing another one. All he cared about was doing what he had to do to help the team win. Keemun has that same mentality and I like that. No he doesn't have the arm of Favre, or even Cousins, but if he thinks he's going to have to risk taking chances to win the game, he's not afraid to do that. He was in that position in Denver and is also there in Washington. Those two teams wouldn't have won with Peyton Manning or Tom Brady at QB. I'm not comparing Keenum to them. I'm just saying that you can't use his performance on those two teams as some sort of litmus test for how he can perform on a team with talent.
Today's game was the sort of game that I feel Keenum MAY have had a better chance to win than Cousins. Sure, Cousins didn't have any interceptions, and Maybe Keenum would have thrown a couple, but in the end, I think he would have given us a better chance. Again....I'm not saying that he WOULD have, just that I think he would have made it more competitive.
And the argument of that his miracle game against the Saints doesn't mean anything because it was luck doesn't hold water with me. It just doesn't matter how lucky he got. He threw the ball. Diggs caught the ball. I wholeheartedly believe that if you put Cousins in that situation, he doesn't even throw that ball. He probably either tries to dump it off or bounces around until someone strips the ball from his hand. Winners get lucky. Losers don't because they never take the chance of leaving it up to luck.
So, there's no sense whining about it anymore. Cousins is our QB and I root for him, but I will be completely shocked if he will ever orchestrate a game winning drive, or a comeback in any game of importance much less take us to a Super Bowl.
But disregarding how Keenum played last year and how he was benched this year but often bringing up kirks past there is completely unfair if you ask me. Case Keenum probably ended his time being a starter in this league. Maybe he’ll get lucky like Fitzpatrick and catch on as a stop gap somewhere but for the most part, he’s done.
If ANY team thought case Keenum was good, or if he was actually good, don’t you think he would have had a smidge of success somewhere along the line?? In the last two years he’s gone 6-14, played for 2 different teams and has been benched. That alone should be the end of discussing what life would be like with Keenum on the roster. He showed what kind of QB he truly is. And it’s not a good one. And practically every team in this league believes that.
