mosscarter wrote:tsonn i gave you straight passing statistics from 8 games "not video game statistics." and for that matter, i don't need any type of statistics to tell me bridgewater is no good. all one needs to do is watch him. 14 passing touchdowns in 16 games stands alone and totally speaks for itself. i'm not even sure fox news could spin that into a franchise qb, or even a qb that has shown progression according to any standards. someone mentioned turner is maybe taking the same route with aikman as he did with bridgewater and i nearly spit my coffee on my laptop. exactly what route would that be because so far it looks like a dead end street. citing the fact that we on 6 out of those 8 games is pointless. as someone said, put teddy on the browns, titans, or raiders (or many other sub par teams) and then see if his winning record would hold up. the sad truth is that aside from him; we are a really good team. people keep making excuses for him. it's the o-line, it's the receivers, it's norv. my favorite one of all though is that it is peterson's fault. any qb in the nfl would die to have the best back of this generation in the backfield, but it is his fault teddy can't develop even a mild semblance of a downfield passing game. no, it's the fact that he can't hit a wide open mcckinnon on a throw a division II qb could make (overthrows are the only consistent thing he does). we just won a division title and our qb didn't do a SINGLE thing to contribute to that victory. in fact, he's done that multiple times this season. this team wins in spite of him. who knows, maybe he'll come out and throw for 300 yds and 2 td's sunday, but it won't matter because he'll follow it up with a 100 yd performance next week. his track record speaks for itself.
I wasn't saying that you were citing video game stats when you mentioned Teddy's worst games of the year. That doesn't even make sense. I was referring to older posts of yours in a different topic where you mentioned Brees throwing 7 TDs in one game as a comparison and reason for why Teddy was a bad quarterback. Your posts are always very memorable due to the vitriol you have towards Teddy and (to be honest) your lack of punctuation/capitalization.
"I don't need any type of statistics to tell me Bridgewater is no good ... 14 passing TDs in 16 games stands alone and totally speaks for itself". Read that back and see if that makes any sense. Stats are clearly important to you (as shown by your post history) so it's bizarre to claim otherwise.
I mentioned how Aikman performed under Norv because it is definitely relevant. I know you're not a stats guy
but check this out:
Aikman's 3 years with Norv as the OC:
1991 (age 25, 3rd year in the league) | Att: 363 | Comp%: 65.3 | Yards: 2754 | TD: 11 | INT: 10 | Y/A: 7.6 | TD% 3.0 | Rate: 86.7 |
1992 | Att: 473 | Comp% 63.8 | Yards: 3445 | TD: 23 | INT: 14 | Y/A: 7.3 | TD% 4.9 | Rate: 89.5 |
1993 | Att: 392 | Comp% 69.1 | Yards: 3100 | TD: 15 | INT: 6 | Y/A: 7.9 | TD% 3.8 | Rate: 99.0 |
Teddy's 2 years with Norv as the OC:
2014 (age 22, 1st year in the league) | Att: 402 | Comp% 64.4 | Yards: 2919 | TD: 14 | INT: 12 | Y/A: 7.3 | TD%: 3.5 | Rate: 85.2 |
2015 | Att: 447 | Comp% 65.3 | Yards: 3231 | TD: 14 | INT: 9 | Y/A: 7.2 | TD%: 3.1 | Rate: 88.7 |
They are remarkably similar stats. Also note that Aikman had 2-3 more years of experience at this point in his career. And keep in mind that Aikman had Emmitt Smith (arguably one of the best RBs of all time and HOFer) and Michael Irvin (arguably one of the best WRs of all time and HOFer). Smith is comparable to Peterson on our team, but we have no weapon like Irvin out wide. This comparison isn't one of those "well Aikman sucked his first year and look what he became" - this comparison has value because it's
the same offensive coordinator with
a similar rushing attack and a comparable
winning record. Teddy is performing eerily similar to Aikman under Norv as an OC and with fewer weapons on offense and comparable overall team record. I would argue that this comparison is actually better than any current QB comparison based on those similarities.
Maybe Norv sees similarities between Bridgewater and Aikman so he is bringing him along the same way he developed Aikman?
Last bit - of course we need to consider that we won 6 of those 8 games that you mentioned. It's important, not necessarily to try to legitimize the stats, but to understand why the stats happened that way. When we get a lead, we run the ball and run the clock. That's our team's philosophy. Could it be because the coaches don't trust Teddy yet to throw more? Maybe. It could also be that we have the best RB in the league, too. But the point is whenever they get a lead, Teddy has very little opportunity to boost his stats. The only games they allowed that to happen was Week 15 and 16 against the Bears and the Giants and you clearly didn't cite those games in your previous post because they were apparently satisfying to you.
