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"... a never-ending cacophony of complaints."Demi wrote:Appreciate what! A tie for 2nd place in the division, the last NFC wild card spot, and a first round #### whooping?
We've done this dance. Over and over again. The only reason they're worth appreciating is because of what's happened previous to them. They improved 7 wins because THEY only had 3 the season before! Sorry that doesn't cut it. They never should have had that 3 win season, and they sure are #### shouldn't get cut any slack because they improve on the worst back to back seasons in team history. Falling in the toilet is still falling in the toilet, even if you lift yourself out afterward.Mothman wrote: "... a never-ending cacophony of complaints."
They improved by 7 wins and made the playoffs. Those aren't accomplishments worth appreciating? Is it only possible to enjoy or appreciate a season if the team wins the Super Bowl?
The point is that they improved. As a Vikings fan, isn't that what you want from them? Are you so bitter and unforgiving that you can't appreciate that at all? They can't have the back-to-back playoff seasons you say you'd consider worth appreciating without getting the first playoff season and they just did that. They can't get to the Super Bowl without first getting to the playoffs and they can't do that without building a good team, which is what they appear to be doing.Demi wrote:We've done this dance. Over and over again. The only reason they're worth appreciating is because of what's happened previous to them. They improved 7 wins because THEY only had 3 the season before! Sorry that doesn't cut it.
Exactly Jim. What a strange argument to intimate that winning over three times as many games than the year before is insignificant and not worth appreciating because of the fact that 3-13 was such a poor record the year beforeMothman wrote: The point is that they improved. As a Vikings fan, isn't that what you want from them? Are you so bitter and unforgiving that you can't appreciate that at all? They can't have the back-to-back playoff seasons you say you'd consider worth appreciating without getting the first playoff season and they just did that. They can't get to the Super Bowl without first getting to the playoffs and they can't do that without building a good team, which is what they appear to be doing.
You're illustrating exactly what the column at the beginning of this thread was all about.
...rather enlightening.Demi wrote: Falling in the toilet is still falling in the toilet, even if you lift yourself out afterward.
Sadly, there are a lot of fans who are like that. Honestly though, I feel kind of bad for them. I wouldn't imagine I would enjoy sports much at all if I felt that way. I suppose I'd be mean all the time, too.Mothman wrote: Are you so bitter and unforgiving that you can't appreciate that at all?
That's their deal, though. Don't let it stress you. Everyone is different. The world would be boring if everyone shared the same opinion about everything. Ya know?
Yes, precisely. There were a lot of question marks when Spielman took the helm as GM but he's had way too many good decisions to chalk it up to dumb luck at this point. Outstanding draft picks, good trades, you name it. Spielman has impressed me. And Frazier is just the kind of motivated, smart coach to make things work. Sure, it's possible the Vikes could implode this season, but the GM and coach have positioned them well to succeed. This is how the best franchises are run these days, and I'm very optimistic for the future.mansquatch wrote:The thing I am clinging to this year is the general sense that this organization is being run by some VERY professional people. I've been a Vikes fan my whole life but I didn' really get into them and watch most games until the Dennis Green era. I can say without a doubt that this HC/GM combo is the very first time I've felt like the organization is being run professionally and intelligently.
Corporal Johnson fell into a toilet once. It was in Korea, he was in the latrine when a surprise attack by Chinese troops came. Right away, a grenade hit the very latrine he was in, the toilet under him flew sideways and down he went. The tent collapsed above him and when he first moved to get up and climb out he discovered he couldn't move his leg thanks to some shell fragments from the grenade. So he sat there, huddled in urine, feces, and all the crawly things that like to hang out in urine in feces; and listened to the battle overhead for the next 3 hours. Finally, after things settled down he heard some members of his company talking above and called out to them. An hour later they had him out of there and cleaned up, shell fragments removed and he was able to move his leg again.Falling in the toilet is still falling in the toilet, even if you lift yourself out afterward.
