IrishViking wrote:
Idk, Green Bay manhandled us on several spy plays.
I could see Cam having a rough outing passing and still get over 300 total yards and a couple of TDs.
Cam isn't nearly as smart as Rodgers. My feeling is that Zimmer can confuse him.
Also, Rodgers ran for a TD, but that's not what he does. The Vikings didn't spy him very often. They'll game plan for Cam's runs, and when it comes to defensive game planning, I trust Zimmer. It'll be tough to win on the road against their defense, but I don't believe Cam will go off on us. It's tough for anybody to go off on Zim's defense.
The meniscus tear is extremely painful. It doesn't heal. Scar tissue can build up to support it but when that tears, it hurts like a B.... He will probably need the surgery and a couple weeks of rehab every day. They will be draining the knee during and after every game.
Wish him well but really excited to see what our offense looks like post AD, if even for just a trial run.
Maybe we should trade AD for an O-line. Just a thought after watching Mike Daniels bull rush Fusco like varsity vs. frosh-soph and treat Kalil like a disposable diaper.
FWIW, I've had two meniscus surgeries (and an ACL). Neither was terribly painful. They were more of an irritant as I could feel something was "clicking" inside my knee -- but not painful. I'm sure it varies dramatically from injury to injury.
So did AD have the MRI? They are certain theres no ACL damage?
My cousin had a meniscus tear and he said it was the most painful thing he's gone through. Took him months to get over and back at full speed. But then hes not AD. We are going to have to take it easier with him the rest of the year Im afraid. I'd like to see what Ham can do as well.
I've had three meniscus tears, all with surgeries.
Two came in my 30s. They were fairly easy to recover from. The last one, I was 54. That was 2 years ago, and I'm still not right. But AP's not in his 50s, and he's an incredibly conditioned athlete.
By the way, meniscus doesn't really heal. It's like cartilage. Padding for the knee joint. Usually they simply take out the torn part. Occasionally you can just play through it. If it's a bucket-handle tear (medial tear), it's tough because sometimes the torn meniscus is in place, and everything feels great. Then the flap gets displaced, often for no damn reason, and it's pain city. Like "you can't even walk" painful. If it's a bucket handle tear and they opt not to do surgery, it's very possible this will linger until it's repaired. However, I think I read that it's a lateral tear, so his recovery chances are better.
If they opt for arthroscopic surgery, he could play in a couple of weeks because of his ridiculous level of conditioning. Basically, as soon as the surgical wounds heal. Don't know how effective he'd be that soon, but I'd never put anything past Adrian Peterson.
I tore my meniscus about two years ago and it only took me about a month before I was running on it. Actually tore mine in a pretty similar way to AD while playing football. Granted I am pretty young and heal quickly and it wasn't a very serious tear. It was of the lateral variety. Based on the way his knee twisted I'd say he probably has the same issue. Possibly more severe. For me the pain was tolerable, and honestly I could have played a football game the next week if I had to, but I wanted it to heal properly so I rested it for a month.
This injury can vary so much in severity that it's tough to say how long it will take Peterson. I would hope they let him rest several weeks even if it isn't too severe. A healthy Peterson at the end of the year for our playoff run is what we really need. We can afford to be patient.
Many thanks to those of you sharing your own meniscus tear stories. It's good to get the perspective of people who have actually dealt with that injury!
Mothman wrote:Many thanks to those of you sharing your own meniscus tear stories. It's good to get the perspective of people who have actually dealt with that injury!
It's a very common injury. I'm actually surprised there aren't lots more of them in the NFL, especially among running backs. Those guys do so many hard stops and jump cuts. Puts tremendous force on the knees. I guess it's a testament to how strong their legs are -- surrounding muscle provides stability. The meniscus is padding for the joint. It's slippery and rubbery, like cartilage on a piece of chicken leg (which is exactly what it is). Once it's damaged, it's tough to deal with. Imagine a wheel bearing that gets damaged. Things just don't move as smoothly anymore. The remaining cartilage sort of grinds, wearing it down further. Eventually, it wears away, and you're left with bone-on-bone.
Sadly for Adrian, he could be looking at a lot of pain after his career is over, especially on that knee he tore up in 2011. It's very common to develop arthritis in a knee damaged that severely. Thankfully, knee replacement has become quite common and safe, and it's a lifesaver if you don't have much meniscus left. I'm looking at knee replacement sometime in the near future. I don't care who you are, when bone rubs on bone, the pain is pretty unbearable.
J. Kapp 11 wrote:
It's a very common injury. I'm actually surprised there aren't lots more of them in the NFL, especially among running backs. Those guys do so many hard stops and jump cuts. Puts tremendous force on the knees. I guess it's a testament to how strong their legs are -- surrounding muscle provides stability. The meniscus is padding for the joint. It's slippery and rubbery, like cartilage on a piece of chicken leg (which is exactly what it is). Once it's damaged, it's tough to deal with. Imagine a wheel bearing that gets damaged. Things just don't move as smoothly anymore. The remaining cartilage sort of grinds, wearing it down further. Eventually, it wears away, and you're left with bone-on-bone.
Sadly for Adrian, he could be looking at a lot of pain after his career is over, especially on that knee he tore up in 2011. It's very common to develop arthritis in a knee damaged that severely. Thankfully, knee replacement has become quite common and safe, and it's a lifesaver if you don't have much meniscus left. I'm looking at knee replacement sometime in the near future. I don't care who you are, when bone rubs on bone, the pain is pretty unbearable.
Indeed. My mother just had shoulder surgery because she had bone rubbing against bone and it was causing her a lot of pain.
I had the same thought about Adrian's post-football life.
Mothman wrote:
Indeed. My mother just had shoulder surgery because she had bone rubbing against bone and it was causing her a lot of pain.
I had the same thought about Adrian's post-football life.
One would think there would be more meniscus injuries in the NFL, unless it's just we just don't hear about them.
Anyway, regarding bone rubbing bone and arthritis in different parts of the body, these problems plague former athletes, martial artists, and even dancers later in years. It can be beyond painful and sometimes difficult to completely cure.
OTOH, knee replacement surgery has nearly become an art form and is oftentimes really effective. I know several people who have had it done and every one of them feels like a new person.
