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Sure there was.StumpHunter wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 7:01 pmUnfortunately, even if we had wanted to trade for him, there was really nothing we could have used to make a trade that would have been better than a 4th, or not way too much to give up.
Seems like it bodes well if the Vikings are hoping to resign Darnold for a 1 or 2 year deal. Another team out of the bidding pool. Perhaps the plan is to get him for significantly less than the franchise tag.J. Kapp 11 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08, 2025 8:12 am Good grief. As if things couldn’t get worse.
Seattle just traded Geno Smith to the Raiders for a 2025 3rd round pick.
The Vikings didn’t use the franchise tag for Sam Darnold because they couldn’t find a trade partner … but Seattle could?
This tells me that at least the Raiders saw Geno Smith, who will be 35 this season, as more valuable than Sam Darnold. I know that Pete Carroll has history with Smith, but really? Geno Smith? For a third?
First Thuney to the Bears, then Smith to the Raiders. Sure hope Kwesi has a great plan because it’s not apparent at this point.
Reports are Darnold will end up with the Seahawks. It makes sense as why would they trade Geno without any other option?Cliff wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08, 2025 9:15 amSeems like it bodes well if the Vikings are hoping to resign Darnold for a 1 or 2 year deal. Another team out of the bidding pool. Perhaps the plan is to get him for significantly less than the franchise tag.J. Kapp 11 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08, 2025 8:12 am Good grief. As if things couldn’t get worse.
Seattle just traded Geno Smith to the Raiders for a 2025 3rd round pick.
The Vikings didn’t use the franchise tag for Sam Darnold because they couldn’t find a trade partner … but Seattle could?
This tells me that at least the Raiders saw Geno Smith, who will be 35 this season, as more valuable than Sam Darnold. I know that Pete Carroll has history with Smith, but really? Geno Smith? For a third?
First Thuney to the Bears, then Smith to the Raiders. Sure hope Kwesi has a great plan because it’s not apparent at this point.
I still think to some degree franchising players is against the team's overall philosophy.
I saw that later. A 4th in 2026 is the same value as a 5th in 2025 and this was a huge miss at a significant need by our GM.J. Kapp 11 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08, 2025 8:03 amSure there was.StumpHunter wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 7:01 pm
Unfortunately, even if we had wanted to trade for him, there was really nothing we could have used to make a trade that would have been better than a 4th, or not way too much to give up.
Chicago gave up a 2026 fourth. We’ve got all our 2026 picks.
I didn’t even know the Chiefs were shopping him. This sucks.
Geno requested a trade. He turned down a 2 year offer from the Hawks. The guy threw 21 TDs and 15 INTs last year. Why would any team give up anything for that garbage. I thought the guy was playing great. I could see if he was 25 and starting his climb. It's the complete opposite.40for60 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08, 2025 7:42 pmReports are Darnold will end up with the Seahawks. It makes sense as why would they trade Geno without any other option?Cliff wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08, 2025 9:15 am
Seems like it bodes well if the Vikings are hoping to resign Darnold for a 1 or 2 year deal. Another team out of the bidding pool. Perhaps the plan is to get him for significantly less than the franchise tag.
I still think to some degree franchising players is against the team's overall philosophy.
Tag and trade is tricky. I would rather they didn’t rather than end up holding the bag.
Might as well sign Akers also. That money is pure stupidity. Just like Davenport was.StumpHunter wrote: ↑Sun Mar 09, 2025 5:32 pm Jones back on a 2 year deal worth 20 million, with 13 million guaranteed.
Insane money to spend on a RB who will be 31 by the end of the year, and just more evidence that Kwesi has no idea what he is doing. Due to his complete lack of foresight at RB, he had nothing at RB, and overpaid an aging one to keep him in house. Why give Jones a 1 year deal last year if you know you have nothing in 2025 and don't plan on drafting a RB in 2024? Pure incompetence.
I honestly don’t get this one.StumpHunter wrote: ↑Sun Mar 09, 2025 5:32 pm Jones back on a 2 year deal worth 20 million, with 13 million guaranteed.
Insane money to spend on a RB who will be 31 by the end of the year, and just more evidence that Kwesi has no idea what he is doing. Due to his complete lack of foresight at RB, he had nothing at RB, and overpaid an aging one to keep him in house. Why give Jones a 1 year deal last year if you know you have nothing in 2025 and don't plan on drafting a RB in 2024? Pure incompetence.
I agree with it being a bit of a "desperation" move. He's the top free agent RB which drives up the price. It would have been nice to get younger at the position.J. Kapp 11 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 09, 2025 6:14 pmI honestly don’t get this one.StumpHunter wrote: ↑Sun Mar 09, 2025 5:32 pm Jones back on a 2 year deal worth 20 million, with 13 million guaranteed.
Insane money to spend on a RB who will be 31 by the end of the year, and just more evidence that Kwesi has no idea what he is doing. Due to his complete lack of foresight at RB, he had nothing at RB, and overpaid an aging one to keep him in house. Why give Jones a 1 year deal last year if you know you have nothing in 2025 and don't plan on drafting a RB in 2024? Pure incompetence.
Aaron Jones is a great dude. A locker room galvanizer. A 1,000-yard rusher. A guy with 1,500 yards from scrimmage. But he’ll turn 31 during the season. He showed a decided lack of burst the second half of 2024. You can’t give him more than 10-12 touches a game, or he’ll break down. Because of that, he’s a guy you bring back for $2 million, not 20.
Yup. We could have made this happen.StumpHunter wrote: ↑Sun Mar 09, 2025 2:14 pmI saw that later. A 4th in 2026 is the same value as a 5th in 2025 and this was a huge miss at a significant need by our GM.J. Kapp 11 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08, 2025 8:03 am
Sure there was.
Chicago gave up a 2026 fourth. We’ve got all our 2026 picks.
I didn’t even know the Chiefs were shopping him. This sucks.
Especially considering Thuney can play LT in a pinch and we might need a starting LT to start the season.
That's a lot of cap for an aging RB no matter how great he is as a teammate. I felt like Jones ability to remain productive dropped off substantially as the year went on, but he's also not a runner who is great at shedding contact or has any burst to get to the second level. In short, he needs effective blocking in front of him.