Kevin O'Connell will be next Vikings coach

[VikingsVictorious]

There's also the thing where Cousins is good and Mond sucks.

Whats Cousins good at? Oh, padding stats, your right, hes good at one things. How many game have you seen Mond play to know that he sucks? Right, just 3 frigging plays. And because Zimmer said he's seen enough of him. Maybe try thinking a bit before you speak. No know if Mond sucks. Im guessing with a good HC we will get a chance to see.

Cousins is a very good professional QB. That's what he's good at. If Mond had showed anything in practice he would have started the game Cousins was out. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm pretty confident that Mond does indeed suck at professional football.

[halfgiz]

Whats Cousins good at? Oh, padding stats, your right, hes good at one things. How many game have you seen Mond play to know that he sucks? Right, just 3 frigging plays. And because Zimmer said he's seen enough of him. Maybe try thinking a bit before you speak. No know if Mond sucks. Im guessing with a good HC we will get a chance to see.

Cousins is a very good professional QB. That's what he's good at. If Mond had showed anything in practice he would have started the game Cousins was out. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm pretty confident that Mond does indeed suck at professional football.

Mond was a rookie, And to make things worse, he was an unvaccinated rookie.
Last thing was, Mannion was Zims boy.
Mond set the passing record at Texas AM running a pro style offensive. I figure the QB coach and KOC will figure out exactly where he is at...good/bad.

[Maelstrom88]

Mond probably isn't the future but I'm glad they took a chance on him. They should draft QBs more often honestly. I hope they give him a year as the back up, evaluate his potential in this offense, and if he isn't the guy they see as a replacement for Kirk then draft another QB high in 2023. You have to keep taking chances or you will never get a franchise QB. Without a franchise QB you're not winning in this league. Having a QB guru as HC will help a lot.

[VikingsVictorious]

Mond probably isn't the future but I'm glad they took a chance on him. They should draft QBs more often honestly. I hope they give him a year as the back up, evaluate his potential in this offense, and if he isn't the guy they see as a replacement for Kirk then draft another QB high in 2023. You have to keep taking chances or you will never get a franchise QB. Without a franchise QB you're not winning in this league. Having a QB guru as HC will help a lot.

Is O'Connell a QB guru?

[Maelstrom88]

Mond probably isn't the future but I'm glad they took a chance on him. They should draft QBs more often honestly. I hope they give him a year as the back up, evaluate his potential in this offense, and if he isn't the guy they see as a replacement for Kirk then draft another QB high in 2023. You have to keep taking chances or you will never get a franchise QB. Without a franchise QB you're not winning in this league. Having a QB guru as HC will help a lot.

Is O'Connell a QB guru?

As much as the next guy. He's as much a proven guru as Mond is a bust. We will see. I expect Kirk to have a career year.

I just thought about how many cornerbacks that were drafted in the first 3 rounds under Zimmer that were busts and yet people still referred to him as a Cornerback guru lol. Rhodes was good, Wayne's was solid, Dantzler was looking good until Zimmer threw him under the bus, Gladney, Hughes, and Alexander I would consider busts. That's a lot of capital thrown at Zim's pet project and yet he probably resisted drafting Mond and was angry over it. We'd probably still have Keenum if Zim had his way. A QB that wouldn't start anywhere else. Cousins, for as much hate as he gets, would be a hot commodity on the open market and I have a feeling he would be great on the Bucs or Rams. Since Zimmer failed with a lot of high round corners (at least 4) will O' Connell get that many QBs to fail with in the top 3 rounds? Of course not, for some reason when a QB drafted in the first few rounds busts the coach is on the hot seat even though that position is infinitely worth more (thus should be invested in more) than Cornerback.

If I were building a team the first round would only be used for QB, WR, OL (OT unless a Quenton Nelson was on the board) , and pass rusher. The back end of a defense doesn't need elite players if you can get a consistent rush with 3 or 4. QB and WR are the most important positions today. Bengals got to the dance primarily with Burrow and Chase. They were smart not to draft Sewell over Chase. I hope the Vikings draftva WR at 12. They'll likely have their pick of the litter and Thielen is old.

[StumpHunter]

Mond probably isn't the future but I'm glad they took a chance on him. They should draft QBs more often honestly. I hope they give him a year as the back up, evaluate his potential in this offense, and if he isn't the guy they see as a replacement for Kirk then draft another QB high in 2023. You have to keep taking chances or you will never get a franchise QB. Without a franchise QB you're not winning in this league. Having a QB guru as HC will help a lot.

Is O'Connell a QB guru?

Well, when he was Cousins QB coach it was Cousins worst year as a starter, so there is that.

[VikingsFan84]

Is O'Connell a QB guru?

Well, when he was Cousins QB coach it was Cousins worst year as a starter, so there is that.

Of course it is because Redskins had awful wide receivers so it is not Cousins’ fault

[CharVike]

Well, when he was Cousins QB coach it was Cousins worst year as a starter, so there is that.

Of course it is because Redskins had awful wide receivers so it is not Cousins’ fault

The Skins franchised him twice which cost big bucks. If he sucked they would have just released him like they did with the great RG III. Brees was also franchised. Not to many get that. If you suck you won't get it.

[StumpHunter]

Of course it is because Redskins had awful wide receivers so it is not Cousins’ fault

The Skins franchised him twice which cost big bucks. If he sucked they would have just released him like they did with the great RG III. Brees was also franchised. Not to many get that. If you suck you won't get it.

Michael Vick was franchised as well.

Not many get that franchise tag because most QBs either get huge money or don't get extended. The weird cases where a team has to resort to franchising there is usually something going on.

[CharVike]

Whats Cousins good at? Oh, padding stats, your right, hes good at one things. How many game have you seen Mond play to know that he sucks? Right, just 3 frigging plays. And because Zimmer said he's seen enough of him. Maybe try thinking a bit before you speak. No know if Mond sucks. Im guessing with a good HC we will get a chance to see.

Cousins is a very good professional QB. That's what he's good at. If Mond had showed anything in practice he would have started the game Cousins was out. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm pretty confident that Mond does indeed suck at professional football.

Stat padding is an action that improves a player's statistics despite being of little benefit to his or her team or its chance of winning. So that's what Cousins is because we can't win. Well Deshuan Watson is the same thing and really much better because he throws stats up and his team won 4 games. People cream over this guy and think he's an elite guy. He's the best stat padder in the game. Bottom line if a team is getting beat then just give up and do nothing. When should that kick in? 1st quarter or 3rd or? Same in baseball. If a team is getting beat no sense in trying. If a team loses 10-1 and a player from the losing side hit a home run that's stat padding. Team didn't win.
Mond has a strange background. It looks like his primary goal has been to become a professional QB. He left high school and spent a year at a place called IMG Acadamy. Then he went to Texas A & M. His draft projection was all over the board with some as low as the 6th round. His high was squeezing into round 3. It's not like an Andrew Luck type of prospect who everyone knew is 1st overall. IMO Speilman has never proven that he is capable of drafting a QB that is an outstanding pro. He's tried so I have little faith that he hit it with Mond. I did read some things about Mond having trouble picking up the offense. I also read that he is terrible throwing outside the numbers. Of course people will say that was Zim screwing him over which is why he was No 3 on the depth chart. Do people actually think Zim has a desire to screw some young player up? I don't. I think Kubesteak basically told Zim this kid can't play right now based on some reasons. Does that mean he is done? No. This year is key. If he can't challenge Cousins, who some think sucks, then just cut him and be done with it. Zim's out of the picture so it's up to Mond. The new staff has no ties to him.

[makila]

Since you fixate on Watson so much. Stop ignoring his 11 and 10 win seasons in 18 & 19 when they won their division and made the playoffs back to back seasons. Something we haven't done recently. He gets credit for those too, eh?

[StanM]

Whats Cousins good at? Oh, padding stats, your right, hes good at one things. How many game have you seen Mond play to know that he sucks? Right, just 3 frigging plays. And because Zimmer said he's seen enough of him. Maybe try thinking a bit before you speak. No know if Mond sucks. Im guessing with a good HC we will get a chance to see.

Cousins is a very good professional QB. That's what he's good at. If Mond had showed anything in practice he would have started the game Cousins was out. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm pretty confident that Mond does indeed suck at professional football.

It wasn’t that many years ago that the common practice was to keep rookie QBs on the bench for a few years. Now they’re expected to come in and play like seasoned pros. I must have missed that change.

[CharVike]

Since you fixate on Watson so much. Stop ignoring his 11 and 10 win seasons in 18 & 19 when they won their division and made the playoffs back to back seasons. Something we haven't done recently. He gets credit for those too, eh?

Yes he does. They were good seasons better than anything Cousins has ever done. I was pointing that out about stat padding. A poster pointed out that is all Cousins does is pad stats. I don't think that's the case. Under Zim Cousins had some games with very few pass attempts. One game he had 10, which is why I call Zim early 70's, if Cousins wanted the stats he could have said F you I'm putting it up so I can throw some TDs. He didn't do that. That type of player will be booted to the curb so quick it wouldn't be funny. These players all want to win even loser Cousins. Yes they all want the stats and the stats will come if you have the talent level to get them. Some will come in defeat and some will come in wins. That's the way sports work. Nobody plays the same day in and day out. Humans aren't machines.

[CharVike]

Cousins is a very good professional QB. That's what he's good at. If Mond had showed anything in practice he would have started the game Cousins was out. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm pretty confident that Mond does indeed suck at professional football.

It wasn’t that many years ago that the common practice was to keep rookie QBs on the bench for a few years. Now they’re expected to come in and play like seasoned pros. I must have missed that change.

I don't think anybody expects a rookie to play like a seasoned pro. It's the hardest position in team sports. Aikman sucked his 1st year starting 1989. He became the first Dallas rookie quarterback to start a season opener since Roger Staubach in 1969. He was also 0-11 starting. A complete loser but the team sucked also. RG III was offensive rookie of the year. Sucked ever since. Mainly because he thought he knew everything and still does. It works different ways. Always has always will. Everyone has an opinion of Mond and there's nothing wrong with that. I didn't like the pick. I felt we could have drafted a better player and Mond would have been there later on anyway. He may be a HOFer. Many think this Willis would be a great pick this year. I wouldn't touch the guy before RD 5. IMO he is TJack part 2. He bailed out of Auburn for a reason. Competition?

[makila]

It wasn’t that many years ago that the common practice was to keep rookie QBs on the bench for a few years. Now they’re expected to come in and play like seasoned pros. I must have missed that change.

I don't think anybody expects a rookie to play like a seasoned pro. It's the hardest position in team sports. Aikman sucked his 1st year starting 1989. He became the first Dallas rookie quarterback to start a season opener since Roger Staubach in 1969. He was also 0-11 starting. A complete loser but the team sucked also. RG III was offensive rookie of the year. Sucked ever since. Mainly because he thought he knew everything and still does. It works different ways. Always has always will. Everyone has an opinion of Mond and there's nothing wrong with that. I didn't like the pick. I felt we could have drafted a better player and Mond would have been there later on anyway. He may be a HOFer. Many think this Willis would be a great pick this year. I wouldn't touch the guy before RD 5. IMO he is TJack part 2. He bailed out of Auburn for a reason. Competition?

He wasn't named starter. Talked with Malzhan. Realized he needed to mature, and an opportunity to start, and transferred. He's openly talked about this.

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https://www.on3.com/news/malik-willis-d ... nior-bowl/

“His attitude toward watching film at Auburn was at the root of his two-year stretch on the bench,” Goodbread wrote. “He knew the playbook and the responsibilities of his position, but he took no real interest in studying defenses or the intricacies of other positions in the AU offense. It culminated with Malzahn informing him, following spring practice in 2019, that he would not even be considered in the quarterback competition.”

“I was so immature,” Willis said in the interview. “… just played really well in the spring game, but I learned the hard way that the spring game doesn’t matter. I decided after that meeting that I had to be better, but I needed to find somewhere else to play and find someone to help me get where I needed to go.”
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That sounds like someone who has a lot of self-awareness and acknowledging needing self growth is a big step in individual progress.

I think there are legit concerns about him needing to develop. He's a project for sure. I'm a firm believer you keep drafting QBs until you find one. Can't hit a homerun if you never swing. Wouldn't want to spend a first few rounds pick. Think he's very much a swing mid round if there. Being such a qb starved draft likely elevates his draft position based on need.