2017 Vikings Free Agency Signings Thread

[YikesVikes]

People don't want to count it, but the 1969 NFL Championship IS a chip. Not only that, they had nothing but great players from 1967-1980.

Anyways, before this gets into a pissfest, I'll defer from answering further and just say this: We'll find out the results. Let's just sit back and enjoy ourselves.

*I* think once the Superbowl era rang in, the final game became the "Chip" mark.

[Rhodes Closed]

*I* think once the Superbowl era rang in, the final game became the "Chip" mark.

To be honest, the Super Bowl really didn't matter until SB V when the merger happened, but that's neither here nor there.

[Pondering Her Percy]

That's not how this works! Just because I am on the field more, it doesn't mean I have more opportunities to catch the ball. We were a rush heavy offense. What I do know is that Peterson is a more efficient catcher of the ball (google targets vs. catches). Your inability to grasp that is scary.

Latavius Murray had 1 drop on 43 targets this year. That's a 2.3% drop percentage. That does not warrant "questionable" hands.
Then who is the best talent in the FA class?? I cant say it's DeAngello Williams since he averaged 3.5 a carry behind a top 3 line. Listen I want to draft a RB too. There has been nobody on here that has stated that more than probably me. Even with Murray, I still want to draft one. Preferably Perine, Mixon, Kamara or Hunt. Even Foreman. But for FA backs, yeah Murray was definitely one of the best ones out there.
Regardless, the guy can score. I'm not asking you to jump for joy. But I'm also trying to get across he was one of the best options out there. In free agency that is.

Well I've been bring up AP because you said AP would be better for us to have right now than Murray but have yet to say why.

Listen you can ask that question all over the league. Why wont Washington give Cousins a contract, why did Cincy let their two best OL walk, why did Houston let Bouye walk? It just happens. They wanted to go in a different direction. Seattle got to Lacy first and I honestly couldnt tell you why Seattle signed him. Especially after he weighed in at 267. But I'm sure him taking just a one year deal was a big factor too. Essentially thats what Murray has but if Murray performs, he has the opportunity to stay longer

[Raptorman]

Let's keep one thing in mind folks. There is no guarantee Murray even makes the team. Yeah, think about that. If they draft a RB and Murray ends up being the 5th best back in pre-season he could be cut. Sure they will take the cap hit for the guarantee but no one is guaranteed to be on the the 53.

Not that's it's likely, but it is possible.

[Pondering Her Percy]

Let's keep one thing in mind folks. There is no guarantee Murray even makes the team. Yeah, think about that. If they draft a RB and Murray ends up being the 5th best back in pre-season he could be cut. Sure they will take the cap hit for the guarantee but no one is guaranteed to be on the the 53.

Not that's it's likely, but it is possible.

I dont even think it's possible. We currently have 4 RBs on our roster now with Murray. Murray, McKinnon, Sankey and Ham. Murray is far and away better than all 3. So the only one that could possibly be better than Murray is the rookie we draft. He'll be on the team

[RFIP]

Cook is signing with the Raiders (just saw the tweet) dang it. His speed at TE would have been a big mis-match and a great 2 TE set.

This team lacks outside speed (again) and people will (again) be blaming Bradford for not throwing the ball down field but they have simply failed to address this factor in FA and the draft won't matter in that regard because I'm sure after getting burned with Treadwell's lack of year 1 performance no round 2-7 wr will see much of the field or even be in their thoughts at this point.

Dang it, I wanted Cook..

[Pondering Her Percy]

Cook is signing with the Raiders (just saw the tweet) dang it. His speed at TE would have been a big mis-match and a great 2 TE set.

This team lacks outside speed (again) and people will (again) be blaming Bradford for not throwing the ball down field but they have simply failed to address this factor in FA and the draft won't matter in that regard because I'm sure after getting burned with Treadwell's lack of year 1 performance no round 2-7 wr will see much of the field or even be in their thoughts at this point.

Dang it, I wanted Cook..

Doesn't surprise me though. He had no shot of starting here. He can easily start in Oakland

[mosscarter]

i agree with rfip we need some speed on the outside. as of now, i think we really need another receiver. treadwell did absolutely nothing to convince me he is a legitimate starter. and as far as johnson goes; he was equally as useless. they could probably get boldin for the league minimum even though he is up there in age. they need someone.

[fiestavike]

i agree with rfip we need some speed on the outside. as of now, i think we really need another receiver. treadwell did absolutely nothing to convince me he is a legitimate starter. and as far as johnson goes; he was equally as useless. they could probably get boldin for the league minimum even though he is up there in age. they need someone.

Do they need speed or do they need Boldin?

Diggs and Thielen are both really fast. They could use someone who can catch contested balls which they may be hoping is Treadwell. Bohringer may get his chance to be the 5th WR if they don't add a FA or draft a WR early.

[Demi]

i agree with rfip we need some speed on the outside. as of now, i think we really need another receiver. treadwell did absolutely nothing to convince me he is a legitimate starter. and as far as johnson goes; he was equally as useless. they could probably get boldin for the league minimum even though he is up there in age. they need someone.

"Speed on the outside" "Boldin".

Short of "opposite of" I don't think I'd ever see those two in the same post.

Murray, Lacy, these RBs are free agents for a reason. Interchangeable. Still an upgrade over what we have. Still a big need for the team. Can they block and catch? Will they improve? Shurmur's silly offense isn't going to get them very good numbers on the ground. The only year he had a top 10 rushing offense was the year Chip Kelly was running the offense.

Also continues Spielman's genius trend of signing guys coming off of rookie deals, that was talked up the minute he took over. Someone needs to write an article in a paper on how that has worked out.

[Pondering Her Percy]

"Speed on the outside" "Boldin".

Short of "opposite of" I don't think I'd ever see those two in the same post.

Murray, Lacy, these RBs are free agents for a reason. Interchangeable. Still an upgrade over what we have. Still a big need for the team. Can they block and catch? Will they improve? Shurmur's silly offense isn't going to get them very good numbers on the ground. The only year he had a top 10 rushing offense was the year Chip Kelly was running the offense.

Also continues Spielman's genius trend of signing guys coming off of rookie deals, that was talked up the minute he took over. Someone needs to write an article in a paper on how that has worked out.

Yeah....Murray can catch and block. Arguably one of the best pass blocking backs out there. We needed someone else at the position anyways. All we had left was a third down back. Now if we have Murray, McKinnon and a draft pick, that could be a very solid backfield. Not sure why guys are surprised or upset about this Murray signing. We had one back on the roster and he was the opposite of a workhorse. A draft pick and Murray sound like a pretty good approach to improving our run game

[J. Kapp 11]

Peterson isn't half as one-dimensional as he's being portrayed around here lately and that's been made clear over the course of his career. There's a difference between being used in a one-dimensional way by coaches with limited imagination and being a wholly one-dimensional player. There's a difference between seldom being asked to do something and not being able to do it at all. Peterson is not a back "who can only run in i-formation". He prefers that formation, just like QBs prefer to throw certain routes, WRs prefer to run certain routes, etc.

You'll kidding, right?

Adrian Peterson has never been close to multi-dimensional. He's been great, great, GREAT at what he does, which is run the football. First-ballot HOF great. But he's never been even average at catching the ball out of the backfield. He simply doesn't have good hands, Jim. He's also a poor blocker, not because of any lack of physical capability, but because he often doesn't know who he's supposed to block. You keep saying that the coaches don't use him in a multi-dimensional way. I agree. There's a reason for that.

And the stats don't lie. Adrian Peterson's per-carry average out of the gun is significantly less than his average out of the I. He's never been a patient runner, which is a must running out of the gun.

It's almost like you take these criticisms personally, Jim. Adrian Peterson is one of the greatest players I've ever seen, and THE best runner I've ever seen. But he's not perfect, and he's not multi-dimensional. Never has been. Why can't that be OK?

This is a simple case of Adrian Peterson's skillset not fitting what the Vikings want to do going forward. It sucks, but it's the truth. I don't know whether Latavius Murray fills the bill, but I understand why they are going this direction.

[Pondering Her Percy]

You'll kidding, right?

Adrian Peterson has never been close to multi-dimensional. He's been great, great, GREAT at what he does, which is run the football. First-ballot HOF great. But he's never been even average at catching the ball out of the backfield. He simply doesn't have good hands, Jim. He's also a poor blocker, not because of any lack of physical capability, but because he often doesn't know who he's supposed to block. You keep saying that the coaches don't use him in a multi-dimensional way. I agree. There's a reason for that.

And the stats don't lie. Adrian Peterson's per-carry average out of the gun is significantly less than his average out of the I. He's never been a patient runner, which is a must running out of the gun.

It's almost like you take these criticisms personally, Jim. Adrian Peterson is one of the greatest players I've ever seen, and THE best runner I've ever seen. But he's not perfect, and he's not multi-dimensional. Never has been. Why can't that be OK?

This is a simple case of Adrian Peterson's skillset not fitting what the Vikings want to do going forward. It sucks, but it's the truth. I don't know whether Latavius Murray fills the bill, but I understand why they are going this direction.

Very well said Kapp. I agree 100%. He hasnt been able to do much outside of running from under center which he was unbelievable at. But the rest of his game was far from great.

[Pondering Her Percy]

Murray says he will wear #25 this season in memory of a friend of his that passed away earlier this year. I knew the kid. John Diaz. He was Murray's QB at Onondaga High School when we played against them my junior and senior year. He was shot twice outside of a bar in Syracuse back in November. Pretty sad story. One thing about Murray is that he's always been a class act. Especially with what he said regarding the #28 and AP.

[Pondering Her Percy]

Although I will say, I'm probably the only guy on this board that has tackled a Minnesota Viking at one point in their life. Too bad it was at the goal line and Murray still got in....fail on my part