Sam Bradford's a Viking

[VikingPaul73]

LOL. Yes, we "fixate" on previous problems.....WHEN THE PROBLEMS AREN'T ADDRESSED!!!!!

Sorry, I read your post and I just laughed.

Yes, Boone was a nice addition. I think and hope he will help.

Smith is castoff from another team.....maybe a slight upgrade from Clemmings....Maybe not.

other than that, it's the exact same OL as last year....which was a DISGRACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry, you will probably demand that I shut up and leave VMB never to return because I don't agree with you and Slicky Ricky

Norv Zimmer wants this place to be PRAVDA!!!! If you don't think Slicky Rick is a GENIUS....SIBERIA FOR YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!

[PurpleMustReign]

Go to packerrats or any other Packers message boards and read what they are saying.... it's fricken hilarious! They all seem to think this trade is the 2nd worst in history next to walker from Dallas of course.

But they ALL say how we are going to be complete garbage this year and they are going to win the Superbowl.


It's super funny

Even Jordy isn't that dumb... is he???

[Texas Vike]

Here you go...

Cheers!

Hopefully our libations this year will be celebratory and not of the "tear in my beer" variety.

It's been a roller coaster start so far.

[Norv Zimmer]

LOL. Yes, we "fixate" on previous problems.....WHEN THE PROBLEMS AREN'T ADDRESSED!!!!!

Sorry, I read your post and I just laughed.

Yes, Boone was a nice addition. I think and hope he will help.

Smith is castoff from another team.....maybe a slight upgrade from Clemmings....Maybe not.

other than that, it's the exact same OL as last year....which was a DISGRACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry, you will probably demand that I shut up and leave VMB never to return because I don't agree with you and Slicky Ricky

Norv Zimmer wants this place to be PRAVDA!!!! If you don't think Slicky Rick is a GENIUS....SIBERIA FOR YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!

40 % of the line is new, previous pro bowlers. Fusco moves back to his natural side. Berger has a full year at center under his belt. Kalil is the healthiest he had been since his rookie season.

And you say the linext is pretty much the same....

[VikingPaul73]

LOL, yes, somehow Smith was All Pro.....in 2012!!!!!!!! And he's been bad ever since.. He is simply NOT a good RT. But I will grant you, he's better than Clemmings.

Berger is a year OLDER.

Look, I hope you are right. But to me, this OL screams TRAIN WRECK. I don't care which OG position Fusco plays, he is just plain BAD. Smith has been bad for several years. Berger is 34. Boone is very good. Kalil, another train wreck

this OL is a total unmitigated disaster. It's an embarrassment to the franchise and Slicky Ricky should be ashamed of himself

I honestly feel bad for Bradford, he really hasn't gotten a fair shake in the NFL, and now its getting worse with this disgrace of an OL on a terrible franchise to boot.

Sorry, I love the Vikings but what I say is true and everyone knows it

[J. Kapp 11]

LOL, yes, somehow Smith was All Pro.....in 2012!!!!!!!! And he's been bad ever since.. He is simply NOT a good RT. But I will grant you, he's better than Clemmings.

Berger is a year OLDER.

Look, I hope you are right. But to me, this OL screams TRAIN WRECK. I don't care which OG position Fusco plays, he is just plain BAD. Smith has been bad for several years. Berger is 34. Boone is very good. Kalil, another train wreck

this OL is a total unmitigated disaster. It's an embarrassment to the franchise and Slicky Ricky should be ashamed of himself

I honestly feel bad for Bradford, he really hasn't gotten a fair shake in the NFL, and now its getting worse with this disgrace of an OL on a terrible franchise to boot.

Sorry, I love the Vikings but what I say is true and everyone knows it

Everyone who?

As far as I can tell, the line has no chance of being as bad as last year. None. We've upgraded significantly at left guard, Fusco moves back to his natural right guard position (where he graded as one of the best according to PFF), and Smith would have to be beyond horrible to play as bad as Clemmings did last year. Not to mention, Tony Sparano is widely regarded as the best O-line coach the Vikings have had since Mike Tice.

Ah but what am I saying? You're right, and everyone knows it. Just forfeit all the games. No sense in playing.

[VikingPaul73]

Relax, no one is saying to forfeit.
I just don't understand the optimism regarding this "revamped" OL....I just don't get it.
let's go left to right

LT) Kalil has been totally inconsistent.....anywhere from horrific to mediocre and everywhere in between. Let's hope he's mediocre
LG) Boone - big improvement, should be solid.
C) Berger is OK but he's 34. Can he be as good as last year? I hope but he is 34
RG) A total disaster last year. He's returning to his natural position at RG, but he was never better than average even at his "natural" position. And that was for 1 year. Let's hope he can return to his 1 year of mediocrity, but I'm not counting on it
RT) Andre Smith was good 4 years ago. Now he's terrible

So 3 bad OL, 1 average 34 year old, and 1 good OL. So why all of the optimism??? I guess AD can run behind Boone and Berger.....EVERY PLAY?????

[Purple Martin]

LOL, yes, somehow Smith was All Pro.....in 2012!!!!!!!! And he's been bad ever since.. He is simply NOT a good RT. But I will grant you, he's better than Clemmings.

Berger is a year OLDER.

Look, I hope you are right. But to me, this OL screams TRAIN WRECK. I don't care which OG position Fusco plays, he is just plain BAD. Smith has been bad for several years. Berger is 34. Boone is very good. Kalil, another train wreck

this OL is a total unmitigated disaster. It's an embarrassment to the franchise and Slicky Ricky should be ashamed of himself

I honestly feel bad for Bradford, he really hasn't gotten a fair shake in the NFL, and now its getting worse with this disgrace of an OL on a terrible franchise to boot.

Sorry, I love the Vikings but what I say is true and everyone knows it

No need for such worry. Last year Philly pass-blocking was worse than ours. He'll feel right at home.

[Jordysghost]

Even Jordy isn't that dumb... is he???

I think the Packers have a good shot at a SB, but I think Bradford is better then your starter, so..

[Jordysghost]

Go to packerrats or any other Packers message boards and read what they are saying.... it's fricken hilarious! They all seem to think this trade is the 2nd worst in history next to walker from Dallas of course.

But they ALL say how we are going to be complete garbage this year and they are going to win the Superbowl.


It's super funny

I can't lie, the way they are reacting to Bradford is wishful thinking at best, the same point that iv'e been so adamant in combatting (The idea that Bradford isn't an upgrade over Teddy) seems to be common thought over on the Packer forum.

[Jordysghost]

Thanks for the shout out, JohnnyNight. Nice to know that Sam Bradford has fans... I've heard a lot of complaining about Teddy Bridgewater over the last 2 years -- some of which I haven't found warranted. The kid has heart (and is only 23 years old). When Teddy went down last week, all of a sudden fans felt the Vikings were doomed this season. For the last few days Viking fans, coaches and players have had to deal with our grief and disappointment.

As the week went on, I for one wondered what the Vikings were going to do. You see, one of the problems with Bridgewater has been, up until this preseason, that he hadn't been able to consistently throw and complete passes down the field. He showed signs of being able to do it in the first and third preseason games this August... and everyone had high expectations for him this year (not to mention high expectations for the team as a whole). But now that Teddy is suddenly out for the year -- we've had to deal with our disappointment and deflated hopes.

I like Shaun Hill. The guy is a serviceable backup QB -- but he cannot throw the ball down the field. He doesn't have the arm. And that meant for anyone paying attention that, without the new Teddy Bridgewater, the Vikings were going to continue to have a one dimensional offense this season by running the ball and throwing short -- a characteristic of the Viking offenses that has plagued the team since Brett Favre's awesome season in 2009. It's nice to have Adrian Peterson -- but even Peterson can be stopped if your QB can't throw over the opposing defense when they cheat up to the line to stop him with 10 in the box.

So now Viking fans have to get used to the idea that Bradford is the man, and that, because of the timing of Bridgewater's injury, the Vikings were forced to pay a premium for him. I must say that it worked out good for the Eagles though in terms of getting back the 1st round draft pick they traded away to acquire Wentz. But is Bradford worth the price? A lot of us aren't so sure. He's had injury problems (two ACL surgeries in 6 years) and after Teddy's injury, some of us are looking for the other shoe to drop. He's also different than Teddy in that Bradford is more of a standard drop-back passer. Teddy had shown us that he was a mobile QB. Bradford won't be.

But I can say this -- it's a fact that Bradford can throw the ball down the field and make completions. He's got a strong, accurate arm and he's proved that he can throw the ball down the field in Philly. And if he can make that play enough for the Vikings to loosen up opposing defenses, it's going to open up the running game big time. That would be good. So it's really on Bradford now -- both to deliver on what he can do as a passer and to stay healthy. If he can do those two things in 2016, it's going to be a fun season for Viking fans in spite of Teddy's injury.

I'd be willing to bet Bradford's decisiveness and release will aid him in taking less sacks then Bridge, but honestly, two preaseason games and your ready to dub Teddy, 'New Teddy'?

[Pondering Her Percy]

They should have made a run at Peyton.

The "Shaun Hill isn't much worse than Teddy" fluff job in the other thread made me feel less good about Hill than it made me feel bad about Teddy. So yeah after wishing they'd made a push for Foles a month ago, it's nice they did something. And the something they did is likely the best option possible. Even if it cost that first, at least this season isn't a throwaway like it was with Hill or some other bum. And they might have a better option moving forward. At least it's an option. Something they haven't had in a decade or more at the position...

Agree 100%. This was our best option and its not like we gave up a top 10 pick. This gives us trade possibilities in the future as well. I think it was a solid trade. Everyone hears the words "first round pick" and tweaks but we aren't a bottom feeder like Cleveland and there is a good chance its a later first round pick. We have stability now. I feel great going into next year with Teddy, Bradford and Hill. Thats quality depth at the QB position.

[John_Viveiros]

There are so many things about John's post I don't understand, aside from the fact that I'd take Randall Cunningham over Brad Johnson, he says 'Bradford might make the fantasy line for QBs go up, but I'd take wins any day' as if Bridgewaters lackluster production somehow helps win games more then Bradford's legitimate production. Where do people come up with this ####?

We watch the games. That's where we come up with it.

In my opinion, people put too much emphasis on quarterback stats. Cutler and Stafford have great stats, but their teams ALWAYS underachieve. You don't get extra votes for big victories, like in college.

Brad Johnson, and Teddy to a lesser degree (because he's only had two years) manage to keep important drives alive late in the game. There's a lot of times where two first downs are actually more valuable than a TD. Johnson clearly understood that IMHO.

[dead_poet]

Relax, no one is saying to forfeit.
I just don't understand the optimism regarding this "revamped" OL....I just don't get it.
let's go left to right

LT) Kalil has been totally inconsistent.....anywhere from horrific to mediocre and everywhere in between. Let's hope he's mediocre
LG) Boone - big improvement, should be solid.
C) Berger is OK but he's 34. Can he be as good as last year? I hope but he is 34
RG) A total disaster last year. He's returning to his natural position at RG, but he was never better than average even at his "natural" position. And that was for 1 year. Let's hope he can return to his 1 year of mediocrity, but I'm not counting on it
RT) Andre Smith was good 4 years ago. Now he's terrible

So 3 bad OL, 1 average 34 year old, and 1 good OL. So why all of the optimism??? I guess AD can run behind Boone and Berger.....EVERY PLAY?????

Harris wasn't bad at RG last year.

[Norv Zimmer]

LOL, yes, somehow Smith was All Pro.....in 2012!!!!!!!! And he's been bad ever since.. He is simply NOT a good RT. But I will grant you, he's better than Clemmings.

Berger is a year OLDER.

Look, I hope you are right. But to me, this OL screams TRAIN WRECK. I don't care which OG position Fusco plays, he is just plain BAD. Smith has been bad for several years. Berger is 34. Boone is very good. Kalil, another train wreck

this OL is a total unmitigated disaster. It's an embarrassment to the franchise and Slicky Ricky should be ashamed of himself

I honestly feel bad for Bradford, he really hasn't gotten a fair shake in the NFL, and now its getting worse with this disgrace of an OL on a terrible franchise to boot.

Sorry, I love the Vikings but what I say is true and everyone knows it

You are dead wrong and everyone.knows it.

You can have your opinion but don't go forcing it on everyone especially me.