Vikings Need A Plan B at QB

[chicagopurple]

funny thing, I have repeatedly looked at his scrawny neck, arm and calves and thought the same thing......a little growth hormone and he MIGHT just look and throw like Rothlesburg.....and probably start acting like a psychopath too......LoveBoat part II......

[The Breeze]

I'm essentially of the same mind as Jim on this subject. I differ in the sense that I would rather not draft of legit prospect until the starter has proven his worth,one way or the other. In the interim I like having the vet backup to help the young starter with the day to day intangibles.
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I'm not sure about TB being or not being the guy. I think they have to bring in someone who can push him and help evolve that equation. Whether it's a rookie or not depends on who's available when they pick. Not hearing anything good about this draft class.
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I don't see how Denver lets Osweiler get away or why he would leave that team, as it looks to be his very soon if not now.
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RGIII would be a very interesting pick up...but only if DC cut him.
The things I read about Hiencke that concern me refer to his inability to make throws downfield. As long as Norv is running this O i think there is a true need for at least 1 QB with a bigger arm on the roster, in case TB gets injured or if they just want plan B.
If Shaun Hill is #2 next season, I will disappoint. I feel that by season 3 of TBs time that the backup should be a legit guy to go to, rather than an injury replacement.
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The problem remains that there are very few options regardless. Hopefully TB finishes the season on a high note and they actually make progress shoring up the line next offseason.

[Texas Vike]

I'm essentially of the same mind as Jim on this subject. I differ in the sense that I would rather not draft of legit prospect until the starter has proven his worth,one way or the other. In the interim I like having the vet backup to help the young starter with the day to day intangibles.
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I'm not sure about TB being or not being the guy. I think they have to bring in someone who can push him and help evolve that equation. Whether it's a rookie or not depends on who's available when they pick. Not hearing anything good about this draft class.
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I don't see how Denver lets Osweiler get away or why he would leave that team, as it looks to be his very soon if not now.
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RGIII would be a very interesting pick up...but only if DC cut him.
The things I read about Hiencke that concern me refer to his inability to make throws downfield. As long as Norv is running this O i think there is a true need for at least 1 QB with a bigger arm on the roster, in case TB gets injured or if they just want plan B.
If Shaun Hill is #2 next season, I will disappoint. I feel that by season 3 of TBs time that the backup should be a legit guy to go to, rather than an injury replacement.
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The problem remains that there are very few options regardless. Hopefully TB finishes the season on a high note and they actually make progress shoring up the line next offseason.

I hope they draft TCU's QB Trevone Boykin in round 5/6 (where he is currently projected by CBS sports). He has a nice long ball and is insanely mobile. He is also a very smart player. For a 5th or 6th round pick, I cannot think of a higher potential reward player than Boykin, who was a Heisman front runner until late in the season when accumulated injuries caught up to him and he played a poor game in Stillwater, OK. He simply tried to take on too much and do it all for his team and things fell apart for him. He was still one of the best players in CFB this year, and I'd love to see him stay in purple.

[losperros]

The best possible scenario would be Teddy Bridgewater developing into a first rate quarterback. That would be great for Bridgewater and the team. And who really knows? It just might happen. I hope so. In my view, both the OL and Norv would have to improve as well for it to happen. Bridgewater has to go the whole nine yards on this, including hitting the weight room hard or whatever. He has to improve on every level as a QB, mentally and physically.

That said, even if Bridgewater does turn out to be an outstanding quarterback, I'd want a better plan B than an aging Shaun Hill. These days the game is so fast and the hits so big that starting QBs go down all the time. Every team needs a good backup. So regardless whether Bridgewater turns the corner and becomes the team's franchise QB or not, I'd like to see the Vikings bring in a veteran QB or draft one that is talented, even to the point of competing for the starting job with Teddy. I think that's clearly the best thing for the team.

[jackal]

That said, even if Bridgewater does turn out to be an outstanding quarterback, I'd want a better plan B than an aging Shaun Hill. These days the game is so fast and the hits so big that starting QBs go down all the time. Every team needs a good backup. So regardless whether Bridgewater turns the corner and becomes the team's franchise QB or not, I'd like to see the Vikings bring in a veteran QB or draft one that is talented, even to the point of competing for the starting job with Teddy. I think that's clearly the best thing for the team.

I am not sure what are third string QB is capable of either?

Hill didn't really impress me last time he came in when Teddy got knocked out in the rams game...

The OL by far is my biggest concern currently

[The Breeze]

I agree Craig!

And Tex, I haven't seen that kid play...but that's the kind of guy I would like to see. Someone mobile with an arm that has faced legit competition in college....not a Tjack or Webb or that kid who was here during Ponder's time..a legit prospect over a project, Even if TB becomes the guy...which I'm pulling for. But like Craig intimated...he really has to put the physical work in going forward. He seems too have the smarts and poise.

[TSonn]

Just for comparison: Derek Carr currently has 7 yards passing in the first half against Denver. Brock Oz had 199.

[mondry]

Just for comparison: Derek Carr currently has 7 yards passing in the first half against Denver. Brock Oz had 199.

Yeah Carr was the Teddy bashers golden boy but man has he looked bad in his past 3 games. Last week he had back to back to back interceptions to lose the game, pretty brutal. But like with Teddy it's way too early to write these guys off.

[Texas Vike]

Watching the Cowboys: I sure don't miss Cassel.

[Raptorman]

Watching the Cowboys: I sure don't miss Cassel.

You would think that an offense can't have that much of a drop off in production from one QB to another. But's it's the price you pay for having your QB the center of the offense.

[Mothman]

Yeah Carr was the Teddy bashers golden boy but man has he looked bad in his past 3 games. Last week he had back to back to back interceptions to lose the game, pretty brutal. But like with Teddy it's way too early to write these guys off.

We could really do without that kind of divisive categorizing around here. It serves no constructive purpose.

[John_Viveiros]

We could really do without that kind of divisive categorizing around here. It serves no constructive purpose.

Maybe not, but it's pretty freaking accurate. Teddy had maybe the best game of his career (when adjusted for opponent strength), and yet one prominent poster (who I won't name - not you) has made a post critical of Teddy in 15 of his last 16 posts in the last two days.

[The Breeze]

I've been reading quite a bit in the last week and have only seen one person actually bashing TB.

There are holes in his game and he's not above criticism just like evryone else...Zimmer included. Pointing out the holes and expressing doubts does not constitute bashing, IMO

[Mothman]

Maybe not, but it's pretty freaking accurate. Teddy had maybe the best game of his career (when adjusted for opponent strength), and yet one prominent poster (who I won't name - not you) has made a post critical of Teddy in 15 of his last 16 posts in the last two days.

Nevertheless, we know exactly where this sort of commentary leads and it's not good. It's what led to the rules about "good fan/bad fan" posting in the first place. It's why the term "apologist" is frowned upon around here now and terms like "haters" and "bashers" function in essentially the same way. When we reduce people to such simplistic terms and push them into convenient little groups, it just leads to passive aggressive sniping and undermines the idea of actually addressing one another in intelligent conversation.

There's a Foe function people can use if/when a board member like the prominent poster you're talking about gets to be too much for them.

[Mothman]

Tom Powers: Vikings have a knack for picking poor quarterbacks

During my time I have seen plenty of weirdness with regards to the Vikings.

There was Jerry Burns exhorting his offense to "hold 'em" and demanding that the defense "score some points" during a halftime speech. There was Mike Tice talking on the telephone when he should have been up at the stage handing the commissioner the team's No. 1 draft selection.

We had Dennis Green threatening to buy the team and fire the current owners before he eventually took the high road out of town. And there was Brad Childress referring to himself as "190 pounds of romping, stomping steel" while engaged in a verbal spat with a former player.

There have been players who displayed odd behavioral tendencies, too, such as engaging in intimate acts in a public, downtown stairwell and carrying a mail-order urinary-tract system through the airport in an effort to beat a drug test. Plus, there have been enough crimes committed to keep the entire NCIS franchise in plot lines for years although, thankfully, not lately.

Perhaps the screwiest thing of all, however, has been the organization's inability to come up with a solid, long-term quarterback. The position has been manned by draft busts, no-chancers and former stars on their way out. It has been an amazing quarterback drought. Anyone would be hard-pressed to name another team that has been unable to come up with a long-term stalwart for roughly 25 years.