808vikingsfan wrote:I know its just preseason but is anyone else a little irritated the media is ignoring the fact that the dallas starters were playing against the Vikings 2nd team for almost an entire quarter? What makes it worse is ESPN showed more of Bryant chest bumping his teammates than actual Vikings highlights.
I'm not irritated at all. I am thankful. I'd much rather have that happening than for us to be getting all kinds of attention as a "dark horse" for the SB. Staying under the radar is perfect. Let the Cowgirls bask in the glory of pre-season attention.
Texas Vike wrote:
I'm not irritated at all. I am thankful. I'd much rather have that happening than for us to be getting all kinds of attention as a "dark horse" for the SB. Staying under the radar is perfect. Let the Cowgirls bask in the glory of pre-season attention.
+1
I understand the frustration, but even more than that I appreciate the ability to "sneak up" on our less focused opponents.
— Though just two were aimed more than 10 yards downfield, rookie quarterback Taylor Heinicke connected on all 12 of his throws. That included a 5-for-5 showing on pressured attempts, as he earned his second consecutive positive game grade.
— Defensive tackle Tom Johnson pushed his preseason-leading pressure total to 12 with a sack, two hits, and a hurry.
— Middle linebacker Gerald Hodges saw just eight snaps of run defense but logged four tackles and three defensive stops in that span, leading inside linebackers this week with a run stop percentage of 37.5.
Maybe the Oline is gelling, even with the backups. ST, or Walsh and Loche, dont have much time to get their crap together. I dont think Heinny makes it on the PS, someone will snatch him up. I would imagine Harris will be gone by TMW night (the RB).
Oh jeez. I loathe that Vikeologist guy. He thinks he is some know-it-all super fan.
Looking at that play though, Teddy wasn't wrong in running. One throw is going to be on the move - across his body. The other throw would have gained about the same amount of yardage as him scrambling (assuming Teddy beats the LB in pursuit, which, he should have on that play).
Not a shot at you Funkytown. Just wanted to give my perspective on the issue.
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HardcoreVikesFan wrote:
Oh jeez. I loathe that Vikeologist guy. He thinks he is some know-it-all super fan.
Looking at that play though, Teddy wasn't wrong in running. One throw is going to be on the move - across his body. The other throw would have gained about the same amount of yardage as him scrambling (assuming Teddy beats the LB in pursuit, which, he should have on that play).
Not a shot at you Funkytown. Just wanted to give my perspective on the issue.
It's all good. I was just sharing an example of what some people are saying. As far as that picture, it does look like a missed opportunity, but I'd have to see what happened the second prior to really judge. I'm assuming the super fan said what he said because he was convinced Bridgewater should have thrown it, probably to the left. Who knows?
Mothman wrote:In the end, it didn't matter anyway because the Vikes were flagged for holding on that play.
Not the point at all (there was a penalty and would have been called back), IMO the point is that TB missed 2 wide open receivers and that is just a little bit concerning, though not much to worry about.
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Purple bruise wrote:
Not the point at all (there was a penalty and would have been called back), IMO the point is that TB missed 2 wide open receivers and that is just a little bit concerning, though not much to worry about.
I'm not going to worry unless it starts being a theme. We have to be careful not to expect perfection here. QBs miss open receivers all the time.
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Purple bruise wrote:
Not the point at all (there was a penalty and would have been called back), IMO the point is that TB missed 2 wide open receivers and that is just a little bit concerning, though not much to worry about.
I understand that was the point although, if you watch the entire play, I think it's an oversimplification to say he "missed" two wide open receivers. It's not something you can really tell by just looking at a still shot like that. I'd even go so far as to say it reflects a lack of understanding (by Vikeologist) of what actually happened on the play, which I just watched half an hour ago. The pocket was collapsing to Bridgewater's left and right. He stepped up into the hole he had available but at that point, there was pursuit. He didn't have time to set and make the throw downfield to the left and it's an ill-advised throw to make across his body while on the run. He did appear to have an open option to his right but he may have passed on it because he was uncertain about the aforementioned pursuit and thought the safest option was to take the running room in front of him and go for the first down. It might have been better to make the throw to the right sideline but in the heat of the moment, QBs don't make the optimal decision every time. The play doesn't concern me at all. He didn't risk a turnover on an ill-advised downfield throw. He avoided the pass rush, avoided taking a big hit and the Vikes punted the ball away to fight another day. I'd much rather see that than a reckless throw.
Mothman wrote:
I understand that was the point although, if you watch the entire play, I think it's an oversimplification to say he "missed" two wide open receivers. It's not something you can really tell by just looking at a still shot like that. I'd even go so far as to say it reflects a lack of understanding (by Vikeologist) of what actually happened on the play, which I just watched half an hour ago. The pocket was collapsing to Bridgewater's left and right. He stepped up into the hole he had available but at that point, there was pursuit. He didn't have time to set and make the throw downfield to the left and it's an ill-advised throw to make across his body while on the run. He did appear to have an open option to his right but he may have passed on it because he was uncertain about the aforementioned pursuit and thought the safest option was to take the running room in front of him and go for the first down. It might have been better to make the throw to the right sideline but in the heat of the moment, QBs don't make the optimal decision every time. The play doesn't concern me at all. He didn't risk a turnover on an ill-advised downfield throw. He avoided the pass rush, avoided taking a big hit and the Vikes punted the ball away to fight another day. I'd much rather see that than a reckless throw.
We are all entitled to our own opinions but in a meaningless preseason game I would rather see him throw the ball, even across his body, when a receiver is that wide open and not take a chance of getting drilled on a run. It looks as if he makes that throw (which, by the way, TB is quite adept at) the receiver might still be running.
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Purple bruise wrote:We are all entitled to our own opinions but in a meaningless preseason game I would rather see him throw the ball, even across his body, when a receiver is that wide open and not take a chance of getting drilled on a run. It looks as if he makes that throw (which, by the way, TB is quite adept at) the receiver might still be running.
Again, I think the still shot is deceptive. When I watched the play in motion, it didn't look like that throw was ever a realistic option.
I'll leave it that. After some of the debates about still shots that took place here last year, I've developed a deep aversion to arguing about them.
Mothman wrote:
Again, I think the still shot is deceptive. When I watched the play in motion, it didn't look like that throw was ever a realistic option.
I'll leave it that. After some of the debates about still shots that took place here last year, I've developed a deep aversion to arguing about them.
Fair enough
Do not mistake KINDNESS for WEAKNESS!
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They just showed this play on ESPN's The Insiders (from this angle too!). It seemed like Teddy looked right at our WR on the top left of the screen. So I'd say he made the decision not to throw to him (maybe didn't want to chance it or potentially he thought he was already past the LOS), not that he isn't seeing the field well.
Coincidentally, they showed this clip while singing his praises on the show.
Mothman wrote:
Again, I think the still shot is deceptive. When I watched the play in motion, it didn't look like that throw was ever a realistic option.
I'll leave it that. After some of the debates about still shots that took place here last year, I've developed a deep aversion to arguing about them.
I agree. these still shots don't show much. They have no context and at least as often contribute to a wrong opinion as they do to an accurate one.
