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I can't be more excited about getting Teddy. I was really upset with the Barr pick but some way the Teddy pick makes the Barr pick look better. To think that only a few short months ago Teddy was the number one guy. Sure his pro day didn't go the best but I noticed a stat someone else put up and it makes me feel even better about Teddy. 68 percent completion rate is pretty dang good. Never had a good feeling about Ponder but Teddy is almost exactly the opposite. Tough as nails, stands tall in the pocket, reads defenses well, and goes through his progressions.
I am pretty excited about his future with the Vikes!
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There was an article here (well I think it was here, in the draft section of the board) that a university did a major study about picking players after football but before the combine / pro days / all that jazz and their study showed that the combine and all that really didn't help at all, in fact it could often lead GM's into worse picks. I buy that theory a lot, when the football was done Teddy was ranked pretty high. You add in the circus that is the combine and pro day and all that and suddenly Teddy sucks! Well F that I say, I think we got a heck of a football player.

Guys like Bortles sky rocket AFTER footballs over and go #3 overall, what a joke that is! I'm fine with my boy Teddy! (Yes i hated on him a lil bit to talk up Manziel but now that that "competition" is over TEDDY!!!)
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WOW, If Mothman is sold I guess I BETTER jump on the bandwagon. I would have to say he is NOT one to simply drown in Purple Kool-Aid! Overall, I have been scouring all the info on this kid and the ONLY down-side I can really see is the poor performance for the coaches before the draft....LOTS of Great QBs have had a bad day. If you look at his stats he has done NOTHING BUT GET BETTER every damn year since freakin high school......He might just be the football Viagra the Vikes need.
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Bridgewater reminds me of........................................wait for it.............................................are you ready????.......................................Aaron Rodgers!!!!! :shock:


Like Rodgers, Teddy B has the ability to fit balls into tight spaces and where only his WRs can go get it. He also is very calm under pressure and knows how it make defenses pay for blitzing. He is also a smart kid who reads defense and knows when to call audibles when he seems something he does like. This guy is like a dark skinned version of Rodgers. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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dead_poet wrote:Reusse is not a fan.

Teddy for Heisman sounded good, until I watched

http://www.startribune.com/sports/blogs/258603801.html
Kind of funny, but I tend to agree with Reusse's assessment of Bridgewater overall. But then again, I would think the same thing of a Russell Wilson or a Drew Brees or even a Tom Brady. They aren't often seen leaping in the air to hit an improbable receiver, aren't generally escaping the grip of a defensive end who has them seemingly wrapped up only to then throw a spectacular TD, etc., but they sure get the job done when it matters.
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The Vikings commissioned a "deep analytical study" that examined how the 2014 draft-eligible quarterbacks handle pressure, and it reportedly pinpointed Teddy Bridgewater as "better than anybody else in this class."

Per ESPN Stats & Information, Bridgewater completed 53.5 percent of his throws under duress in 2013, with a 7:1 TD-to-INT ratio. He also completed 70.1 percent of his attempts against pass rushes of five blitzers or more. "He was the best against the blitz," explained GM Rick Spielman. "He's very cool and calm under pressure." Bridgewater lacks ideal size and arm strength, but his coolness in the pocket increases his chances of becoming a stable NFL starter.

http://espn.go.com/blog/minnesota-vikin ... ater-apart
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@CoachBillick: Manziel & Teddy become 9th/10th QB's in last 15 drafts taken in 1st Rd. at pick 22 or later. All but 1 have busted:
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VikingLord wrote: Kind of funny, but I tend to agree with Reusse's assessment of Bridgewater overall. But then again, I would think the same thing of a Russell Wilson or a Drew Brees or even a Tom Brady. They aren't often seen leaping in the air to hit an improbable receiver, aren't generally escaping the grip of a defensive end who has them seemingly wrapped up only to then throw a spectacular TD, etc., but they sure get the job done when it matters.
Yeah, it's one of those things were it sounds negative but in the end, we all want a guy who can just stand in the pocket and deliver an accurate ball on time. I don't care if Ponder's faster, "bigger meathooks", more durable, (really? he's hurt ALL the damn time!) or any of that. I don't care one bit about heisman rankings or any of that.

He's slow? Who cares, he's a QB! More specifically a pocket passing QB. Tom Brady's slow too, big freaking deal, it's not his STRENGTH, so why focus on it! How much has being fast done for RG3? Oh yeah he blew up his ALC and that was 75% of his upside. I for one am HAPPY Bridgewater isn't a run first QB relying on atheltic ability.
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VikingLord wrote: Kind of funny, but I tend to agree with Reusse's assessment of Bridgewater overall. But then again, I would think the same thing of a Russell Wilson or a Drew Brees or even a Tom Brady. They aren't often seen leaping in the air to hit an improbable receiver, aren't generally escaping the grip of a defensive end who has them seemingly wrapped up only to then throw a spectacular TD, etc., but they sure get the job done when it matters.
Well, I've seen a lot of flops do some amazing things in college. I don't know if you can just draft a guy based off of how spectacular he looks, or even just his stats. Bridgewater making it look easy just gives him an advantage if anything. Not that Manziel doesn't make it look easy sometimes. I think he can be a great player, and I don't know how to word this in a way that doesn't make either Bridgewater or Manziel sound bad (depending on how you look at it), but Johnny doesn't take the easy way out of anything. He doesn't panic, but he plays in a way that you'd expect would stress most people out. He runs around in circles when if he was just a little quicker to react to pressure he could simply run behind or in front of a different blocker. Bridgewater seems like he just plays with fantastic peripheral vision, like he's got eyes on the back of his head almost. He moves into the pocket or to his left, but isn't afraid to turn on the jets if he needs to. At least that's what I see on his game film.

I think we saw a little bit of both in Ponder, but in reality he was just a really good physical specimen who played with anxiety. I think if he smoked a little pot he might be a great QB.
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dead_poet wrote:The Vikings commissioned a "deep analytical study" that examined how the 2014 draft-eligible quarterbacks handle pressure, and it reportedly pinpointed Teddy Bridgewater as "better than anybody else in this class."

Per ESPN Stats & Information, Bridgewater completed 53.5 percent of his throws under duress in 2013, with a 7:1 TD-to-INT ratio. He also completed 70.1 percent of his attempts against pass rushes of five blitzers or more. "He was the best against the blitz," explained GM Rick Spielman. "He's very cool and calm under pressure." Bridgewater lacks ideal size and arm strength, but his coolness in the pocket increases his chances of becoming a stable NFL starter.

http://espn.go.com/blog/minnesota-vikin ... ater-apart

Good, he's going to need that coolness under duress in the pocket with our OL. :lol:
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mondry wrote:He's slow? Who cares, he's a QB! More specifically a pocket passing QB. Tom Brady's slow too, big freaking deal, it's not his STRENGTH, so why focus on it! How much has being fast done for RG3? Oh yeah he blew up his ALC and that was 75% of his upside. I for one am HAPPY Bridgewater isn't a run first QB relying on atheltic ability.
Not to worry, Bridgewater isn't slow. I don't care what he timed against a stopwatch, the guy can run with pads on and escape pass rushers. He was good at it for Louisville. Bridgewater can also pass on the run.

Despite what some draft gurus say, they can't take away the fact that Bridgewater was a winner in college ball. He was definitely a good athlete, but more importantly he was a top shelf quarterback.
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dead_poet wrote:The Vikings commissioned a "deep analytical study" that examined how the 2014 draft-eligible quarterbacks handle pressure, and it reportedly pinpointed Teddy Bridgewater as "better than anybody else in this class."
A deep analytical study, eh? That sounds like more monkey business. I'm sure you and Texas Vike know what I mean. :)
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losperros wrote: Not to worry, Bridgewater isn't slow. I don't care what he timed against a stopwatch, the guy can run with pads on and escape pass rushers. He was good at it for Louisville. Bridgewater can also pass on the run.

Despite what some draft gurus say, they can't take away the fact that Bridgewater was a winner in college ball. He was definitely a good athlete, but more importantly he was a top shelf quarterback.
Nice, yeah that's kind of what I thought was happening there. Aaron Rodgers ran a 4.71 40 yard dash and Bridgewater ran a 4.78 at his pro day. I picked Rodgers to compare because Rodgers isn't a running QB but he has no problem getting out of the pocket and taking what the defense gives him with his legs.

That's fast enough for a pocket passing QB to pick up 8 yards and the first down when there's a bunch daylight in front of you.
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Mothman wrote: A deep analytical study, eh? That sounds like more monkey business. I'm sure you and Texas Vike know what I mean. :)

Man, that's just the hot term this year, isn't it? Deep analytics. I think there's an IBM commercial that touts a similar line. It's funny how these words can suddenly be vogue. To me it just sounds idiotic. Obviously teams have been doing statistical analysis for years, and yes, they have probably refined their formulae and methods etc., but I think it's a joke to think they'll ever get better at predicting one of the most elusive things to foresee: QB performance in the NFL.
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