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Smart move. When Teddy falls to the Vikes at eight you do not want to have made an earlier statement like "Teddy was not very impressive at his Pro Day". This way, when it comes time to trade down from picking him at eight, it won't impact his trade value. Those guys are always thinking aheadPondering Her Percy wrote:
I'm just repeating what they said.dead_poet wrote: Over Bridgewater? I don't think so.
Nobody, and I mean nobody, is going to draft one of these QBs "because of a stupid single day throwing in shorts" and for what it's worth, Carr and Bortles both did their share of producing "when the lights are on and the games count" too.VikingLord wrote:I'm glad Bridgewater struggled at his pro day. I hope Manziel does too. This is the time of year when gym short guys like Derek Carr and Blake Bortles are going to shine. Scouts and GMs are going to marvel at how good they look and how well they throw the ball when they aren't under any pressure beyond that of the eyes watching them. So if the guys who actually get it done when the lights are on and the games count don't look so hot, that just means they are more likely to slip down the board to #8 where I hope Spielman will be smart enough not to pass on them because of a stupid single day throwing in shorts.
Drafting Manziel could be disaster or a coup. He's been a very exciting, productive college player but the more I look at his game, the more I'm concerned that his skill set and style of play isn't going to translate well to the pros. I understand that he's an appealing prospect but frankly, I don't think his chances of success in the NFL are significantly higher than some of the QBs people are aggressively against the Vikings selecting.If Derek Carr can just go to one of the teams in the first 7 picks, that means the Vikings would have a much better chance of landing Bridgewater or Manziel. That would be a coup. So I'm rooting for Manziel to stink it up at his pro day too.
And the one guy that might have, is dead. RIP.Nobody, and I mean nobody, is going to draft one of these QBs "because of a stupid single day throwing in shorts" and for what it's worth, Carr and Bortles both did their share of producing "when the lights are on and the games count" too.
I think the thing that makes him appealing is that his ceiling is so much higher than those other prospects, even if his chances of actually success aren't. A lot of people start buying lottery tickets when that grand prize is high, even if their chances are the exact same of actually winning it. I think that's the intriguing part of Manziel. You're better $1 to win $1M at 1:100 odds, whereas the rest of these guys are more along the lines of betting $1 to win $100...at 1:10 odds.I understand that he's an appealing prospect but frankly, I don't think his chances of success in the NFL are significantly higher than some of the QBs people are aggressively against the Vikings selecting.
LOL! Is that kind of talk just buying into the myth of the great college player and media-hyped Heisman trophy winner? It's hard for me not to think of Tim Tebow when I read that kind of stuff about Manziel's attitude, potential and intangibles. Admittedly, their playing styles are different and I think Manziel is definitely a better passer but the parallels seem obvious. Like Tebow, Manziel is a heavily hyped, highly productive, accomplished college QB whose skill set for the NFL looks very questionable. Sometimes, if the skill set doesn't transfer well, all that other stuff doesn't add up to much. I understand why you'd make a Favre comparison because Manziel has a similar enthusiasm and gunslinger mentality. I'm just not sure I'm buying that a $1 bet on him offers much greater odds for a payoff than a $1 bet on several of the other draft-eligible QBs. II'm not convinced his pro ceiling is really higher than that of the other QBs and college accomplishments aren't always indicative of what's to follow. A few months ago I felt differently but i think I was being too influenced by the hype.Demi wrote:I think the thing that makes him appealing is that his ceiling is so much higher than those other prospects, even if his chances of actually success aren't. A lot of people start buying lottery tickets when that grand prize is high, even if their chances are the exact same of actually winning it. I think that's the intriguing part of Manziel. You're better $1 to win $1M at 1:100 odds, whereas the rest of these guys are more along the lines of betting $1 to win $100...at 1:10 odds.
Manziel could be a Brett Favre type, who raises the entire team around him (pokes Mothman with a stick), not sure anyone else in this draft has that type of character/attitude/intangibles. Even though any number of them might be capable of leading a good/great team to a super bowl and even winning, Manziel could possibly take a 2009 Vikings team and despite the year before and after, have them on the doorstep of greatness!
A noodle armed midget with character concerns, and he might just be the best QB option in the draft.
They're really close. We have nobody proven outside of Rhodes at outside corner (especially when we're in nickel, which is often) and an argument could be made that Rhodes is far from a "proven" commodity as well. I wouldn't be upset if a corner was selected in the first two rounds (provided that corner turned out to be more Revis than Cook).Jeffbleedspurple wrote: I would have to say a LB is a bigger need than DB
I know I'm in the minority here but this is why I think Dennard is a better fit and overall better corner than Gilbert.Corners in Mike Zimmer's defense must be able to press at the line of scrimmage and re-route receivers. Zimmer prefers a true center fielder at free safety, and a thumper in the box.
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