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Let's just say we need a Greg Jennings type guy in our defensive backfieldlosperros wrote: Interesting targets for the FA.
The more I think about it, the more I agree with you that it's imperative to get a veteran CB as a starter. At first I was thinking that maybe the Vikings could draft another CB (and they still can) but you're right about them missing Winfield's experience and professional know how. A smart veteran CB would really be a good acquisition. The team needs it.
He's been playing outdoors, on a 7 win team, for a below average coach. And let's not forget this team is one year removed from the playoffs unlike Tennessee. It's going to be all about the money and how we handle the situation. As of late, when Spielman and his staff bring someone in on a visit, they tend to be very smooth about it and pull off the signing. They have gotten who they have wanted as of late. I trust Spielman being able to pull him in if he goes after him.Demi wrote:Is an elite CB like Verner going to be willing to come to Minnesota and play outdoors? On a 5 win team? With a new coach? Going to cost significantly more than market value.
I love the idea of getting Verner. But when it comes to Jennings, he's over 30. Packers lowballed him. There wasn't any interest until Vikes made offer, and it was another low ball by the Pats.Pondering Her Percy wrote: He's been playing outdoors, on a 7 win team, for a below average coach. And let's not forget this team is one year removed from the playoffs unlike Tennessee. It's going to be all about the money and how we handle the situation. As of late, when Spielman and his staff bring someone in on a visit, they tend to be very smooth about it and pull off the signing. They have gotten who they have wanted as of late. I trust Spielman being able to pull him in if he goes after him.
If we decide to go after him? Yes I do. Like I said, it's all about the money with many of these guys. Unless another team overpays him like Miami did with Wallace, I think we have a legitimate shot.Demi wrote:Do you honestly believe it's likely we can get him to come here?
Not to mention how long it took for some pretty decent corners to get signed in free agency last year (and the market for their services was so low that some suspected league-wide collusion), it's entirely possible.Pondering Her Percy wrote: If we decide to go after him? Yes I do. Like I said, it's all about the money with many of these guys. Unless another team overpays him like Miami did with Wallace, I think we have a legitimate shot.
I think it will be about more than money and how the Vikings handle the situation. Free agency is also about what the player wants and where he wants to play. If Verner even gets to free agency (the Titans will probably work pretty hard to re-sign him) he'll have options and some of them might be more attractive to him than Minnesota.Pondering Her Percy wrote: He's been playing outdoors, on a 7 win team, for a below average coach. And let's not forget this team is one year removed from the playoffs unlike Tennessee. It's going to be all about the money and how we handle the situation. As of late, when Spielman and his staff bring someone in on a visit, they tend to be very smooth about it and pull off the signing. They have gotten who they have wanted as of late. I trust Spielman being able to pull him in if he goes after him.
I think like Demi mentioned it will depend on the coach and the system he brings in. If it's another cover 2 no way. Or an offensive minded coach that won't stress defense, no way. But if we bring in an agressive defensive minded coach bringing in an attacking, aggressive system, then why not??Pondering Her Percy wrote: If we decide to go after him? Yes I do. Like I said, it's all about the money with many of these guys. Unless another team overpays him like Miami did with Wallace, I think we have a legitimate shot.
It would have to be about money. That's because *need* would figure into Verner's decision. He would get the red carpet treatment to come to the Vikings, including a hefty salary and enticing contract, because they badly need the guy. OTOH, some players really like being needed. So it goes both ways.Mothman wrote:I think it will be about more than money and how the Vikings handle the situation. Free agency is also about what the player wants and where he wants to play. If Verner even gets to free agency (the Titans will probably work pretty hard to re-sign him) he'll have options and some of them might be more attractive to him than Minnesota.
Shoot Demi, if your statement were taken to it's logical conclusion NO ONE except below average or cast off players would come here. I mean we could say that about ANY of the decent free agents. I think it will depend more on who we get for a coach and staff than it will depend on the weather. Offer a guy decent money with a decent coach and the promise of an indoor stadium in just a couple of years and he might consider it. Sure, I think it would be really hard to sign someone if things were status quo, but there are big changes ahead and I think that might be a really good selling point and something the Wilfs and Spielman need to consider. Providing free agents with a good reason (good head coach and staff) to come here besides just money could just be the ticket. Show them they could be a part of something with a bright future ahead.Demi wrote:Is an elite CB like Verner going to be willing to come to Minnesota and play outdoors? On a 5 win team? With a new coach? Going to cost significantly more than market value.
Depends on the coach too. And the defensive system.
I guess I find it hard to believe we end up with a damn good young corner like Verner with the team in the shape it is...short of horribly over paying.
Great football name, not sure I want the player.Adrianpeterson28mvp wrote:Could we possibly see Taylor Mays come over here this off season with the hire of Zimmer? He went on IR for a dislocated shoulder and is a free agent this year. Zimmer was working with him at LB for the Bengals and could probably be had for cheap.
