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Re: Percy Harvin placed on IR. Season over.

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 7:08 pm
by HardcoreVikesFan
Ha ha I just posted this in the Presser thread at the exact same time.

Re: Percy Harvin placed on IR. Season over.

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 7:12 pm
by danewone
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Re: Percy Harvin placed on IR. Season over.

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 7:15 pm
by losperros
Well, that completely sucks.

Re: Percy Harvin placed on IR. Season over.

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 7:40 pm
by OJVIKE

Re: Percy Harvin placed on IR. Season over.

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:28 pm
by Demi
Good. I doubt he wanted to come back going into contract year. And Vikings don't need to run him into the ground in a "rebuilding" season they flushed down the toilet with Ponder.

Re: Percy Harvin placed on IR. Season over.

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:11 pm
by dkoby
Demi wrote: Vikings don't need to run him into the ground in a "rebuilding" season they flushed down the toilet with Ponder.
Gotta agree here. Percy is a known quantity. no need to put unnecessary wear and tear on him in this year.

Re: Percy Harvin placed on IR. Season over.

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:42 pm
by allday1991
Demi wrote:Good. I doubt he wanted to come back going into contract year.
Think he will even come back? (and i mean to play as a viking)

Re: Percy Harvin placed on IR. Season over.

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 10:16 pm
by Eli
It's going to be interesting to see whether or not the Vikings want to renegotiate his contract going into next year. There's something strange going on between Harvin and the team. Definitely some friction between them that I'm sure we'll all hear about some day.

Re: Percy Harvin placed on IR. Season over.

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 10:30 pm
by allday1991
I dont see how they cant. Its apparent wr is a huge need so why the heck would they let a good wr leave makes no sence to me, but wouldnt suprise me tho, the decision making done by the viking is terrible. for example we give a third round for a 34+ year old 1 year max left at best randy moss, bears trade a 3 round and get a under 30 brandon marshall with a good 5 plus years to give.....wow?

Re: Percy Harvin placed on IR. Season over.

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 10:56 pm
by tmscr
trying to trade harvin might not be that awful of an idea. he does seem to have some injury concerns with his smaller frame but his obvious talents could get us some nice picks/current players if the vikings try to move him. i know he is a dynamic player and you see what the offense fares without him, but this organization needs to build towards a super bowl, not a playoff appearance. if you can get 2 decent players for him, why not?

Re: Percy Harvin placed on IR. Season over.

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:00 am
by sdranger
I don't want him traded, but having said that the obvious choice would be the Pats. Welker and Billy Boy aren't exactly seeing eye to eye and the Pats love trading players and picks. The bad part of that is it would be a very late first rounder.

Re: Percy Harvin placed on IR. Season over.

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:28 am
by Mothman
tmscr wrote:trying to trade harvin might not be that awful of an idea. he does seem to have some injury concerns with his smaller frame but his obvious talents could get us some nice picks/current players if the vikings try to move him. i know he is a dynamic player and you see what the offense fares without him, but this organization needs to build towards a super bowl, not a playoff appearance. if you can get 2 decent players for him, why not?
I don't think trading an impact player for two decent players is how a team gets to the Super Bowl. There's a case to be made for not spending too much on Harvin but if they did trade him, they'd need to get a very, very good return on that transaction.

Re: Percy Harvin placed on IR. Season over.

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 11:13 am
by losperros
tmscr wrote:trying to trade harvin might not be that awful of an idea. he does seem to have some injury concerns with his smaller frame but his obvious talents could get us some nice picks/current players if the vikings try to move him. i know he is a dynamic player and you see what the offense fares without him, but this organization needs to build towards a super bowl, not a playoff appearance. if you can get 2 decent players for him, why not?
Because Harvin is better than the two decent players. In fact, it's probably not even close.

The Vikings need more playmakers, not less. Decent players are fine but they need a few more guys like Harvin that stand out and change a game.

Re: Percy Harvin placed on IR. Season over.

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 11:26 am
by tmscr
Mothman wrote: I don't think trading an impact player for two decent players is how a team gets to the Super Bowl. There's a case to be made for not spending too much on Harvin but if they did trade him, they'd need to get a very, very good return on that transaction.
How many super bowls did we go to with Moss? Peterson? Harvin? Unless you're talking about an impact QB, I disagree with you. This current team will never go to the super bowl if they hold on to a great player like harvin but surround him with mediocre players (i.e. Ponder). The same could be said for Peterson (although I think he's a once in a lifetime player and would not want to lose him). The team needs to be solid at as many levels as possible.

Re: Percy Harvin placed on IR. Season over.

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 11:32 am
by tmscr
losperros wrote: Because Harvin is better than the two decent players. In fact, it's probably not even close.

The Vikings need more playmakers, not less. Decent players are fine but they need a few more guys like Harvin that stand out and change a game.
I will say I believe the vikings need to explore trading him because 1) he does have injury concerns 2) i don't believe he's "all in" about being in MN 3) next year is a contract year and because of #2, he will probably want more money than the vikings can or want to give him and someone else WILL pay him and 4) this current team needs too many more parts to seriously challenge for a championship and holding on to one great player when we could get a few ready to play NFLers won't expediate that process