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Mothman wrote:This is a pretty comprehensive overview from a former agent:

Agent's Take: Everything you need to know about trading Adrian Peterson

It's a good read, but it's long. Here's the shorter course: the maximum compensation that the Vikings should reasonably expect is a second round pick. The other major issue is his salary and cap space, but all of that (lengthy) analysis is moot for me, because I think AD is worth more to the Vikes than a 2nd rounder. I'd be very surprised if we trade him. We'd have to get a surprisingly good deal and I just don't see it happening. This is probably going to get ugly.

Texas Vike wrote:

It's a good read, but it's long. Here's the shorter course: the maximum compensation that the Vikings should reasonably expect is a second round pick.

Except he outlines how they might be able to get a first round pick by restructuring Peterson's contract so they take on the burden of some of his salary this year, thus making him more tradable. In other words, a second round pick isn't necessarily the maximum they could expect in return, especially if the trade involved more than just Peterson for a single pick.

It's all guesswork anyway, since any trade will also have take into account how badly a team wants Peterson and just how much the Vikings actually want to keep him.

The other major issue is his salary and cap space, but all of that (lengthy) analysis is moot for me, because I think AD is worth more to the Vikes than a 2nd rounder. I'd be very surprised if we trade him. We'd have to get a surprisingly good deal and I just don't see it happening. This is probably going to get ugly.

Maybe, although I suspect "ugly" will primarily involve more fans freaking out and more media members writing over-the-top editorials. I doubt the Vikes or Peterson will say a whole lot more than what they've said so far.

It really doesn't make sense for Dallas to get AD because they have to pay Romo, then AD, AND Dez Bryant. I don't think there are many teams, if any, who could afford those three without some major restructuring.

Isn't Dallas still over the cap, or really close to it?

It's a good read, but it's long. Here's the shorter course: the maximum compensation that the Vikings should reasonably expect is a second round pick.

McFadden (Or another player) and a 2nd.

Can someone explain to me how Tony Romo's salary went from $17 million to $1 million? and the rest is his signing bonus? Why doesn't every team do that with every single player?

Demi wrote: McFadden (Or another player) and a 2nd.

Or AP stays with us! The guy has 3 years left and all we would get is a 2nd? BS! That's just the media trying to make it easier for him to leave. Rick will never accept that!

Superfreak84 wrote:Can someone explain to me how Tony Romo's salary went from $17 million to $1 million? and the rest is his signing bonus? Why doesn't every team do that with every single player?

Because they still have to pay the money. It just changes when the cap hit occurs.

Mothman wrote: Because they still have to pay the money. It just changes when the cap hit occurs.

When does the cap hit happen with a bonus?

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PurpleMustReign wrote:When does the cap hit happen with a bonus?

The bonus is guaranteed money and although it's paid up front, in cap terms, teams are able to spread it out over years rather than take the whole hit at once.

Mothman wrote: It's a good read, but it's long. Here's the shorter course: the maximum compensation that the Vikings should reasonably expect is a second round pick.

Except he outlines how they might be able to get a first round pick by restructuring Peterson's contract so they take on the burden of some of his salary this year, thus making him more tradable. In other words, a second round pick isn't necessarily the maximum they could expect in return, especially if the trade involved more than just Peterson for a single pick.

It's all guesswork anyway, since any trade will also have take into account how badly a team wants Peterson and just how much the Vikings actually want to keep him.
Maybe, although I suspect "ugly" will primarily involve more fans freaking out and more media members writing over-the-top editorials. I doubt the Vikes or Peterson will say a whole lot more than what they've said so far.

That's awfully optimistic of you, Jim. I personally think there's going to be a holdout if we don't trade him, but I get what you're saying. A lot of the clamor is the cycle of hack writers trying to generate hits and the masses foaming at the mouth about every theory pitched.

Anyone know if Dogra has a precedent of barking louder than he bites?


Also: regarding the compensation, he never mentions a 1st round pick. He only states, "Eating salary in this manner could be a way for the Vikings to increase the compensation received for Peterson," which I understand to mean a 2nd and a 5th (say). That is, unless I missed something.

it is interesting that Tony would restructure his contract so much. I think the only way he would do that is if it directly benefited him.which having a running back like Adrian Peterson would. the only way I would trade him if I was the Vikings is if I got there first and third for himor Zack Martin and a second or third.

The vikings should bring in gordon, Abdullah, and tevin Coleman for pre draft workouts. That would shake up the AP tree.

WOW, this deal with Romo is the very first factual sign that AP might actually get dealt! I really hope Wilf sticks it to Dallas though. There is absolutely NO reason to let AP go without making it very expensive for Jerry.

Superfreak84 wrote: Or AP stays with us! The guy has 3 years left and all we would get is a 2nd? BS! That's just the media trying to make it easier for him to leave. Rick will never accept that!

So we get a 30 year old running back for 3 years with that cap hit? What's this team done with him for the last 8? In the middle (or early stages) or a rebuild?

I'll take a player 8 years younger, 13 million more in cap room for the next three years, and a solid replacement.

Oh, and get rid of a player who doesn't want to be here. That's always good for a team...

Texas Vike wrote:That's awfully optimistic of you, Jim. I personally think there's going to be a holdout if we don't trade him, but I get what you're saying. A lot of the clamor is the cycle of hack writers trying to generate hits and the masses foaming at the mouth about every theory pitched.

Yes, that was really what I was trying to say. I expect a holdout too if Peterson isn't traded before the draft. I just don't consider a holdout, on it's own, to be ugly. I also get the feeling neither camp wants to be too public about this, though that could obviously change.

Anyone know if Dogra has a precedent of barking louder than he bites?

Good question. I don't know either...

Also: regarding the compensation, he never mentions a 1st round pick. He only states, "Eating salary in this manner could be a way for the Vikings to increase the compensation received for Peterson," which I understand to mean a 2nd and a 5th (say). That is, unless I missed something.

You didn't miss anything. I just interpreted "increase the compensation" to mean a first round pick wouldn't be out of the question. I don't think it is either. Dallas, for example, has a relatively low first round pick and IF they cleared cap space to make a move for Peterson (which may not be the case at all since they needed to clear some cap space anyway) they might not balk at the price of a first round pick, especially since they'd presumably be trading for Peterson to make a serious move toward winning a Super Bowl now.

I understand why the author of the article looked to other RBs to figure out the likely market for Peterson but every situation is unique. If a team really wants him and thinks he could be the missing piece they need to win it all, I doubt a first rounder would be out of the question.