Adrian Peterson Reinstated

[DK Sweets]

I've said the before, but if he is traded, I expect it to be within a week of the draft. Spielman is going to hear all offers and teams are likely to save their best offer for the last minute, a la Jared Allen coming to Minnesota.

[dead_poet]

@Andrew_Krammer Via NBC radio: Zimmer on AP, says relates to uneasy scenario "but I was under contract, I stayed. I think that's how it's going to happen."

[soflavike]

This needs to be brought up again: Adrian was not paid for every game that he missed last year. He was paid for the first 9 games where he was in the exempt list, but he was not paid for the last 6 games when he was actually suspended.

So what? He was paid millions of dollars for 10 games and he only played one... does that make it any better?

[mansquatch]

DK you are omitting a critical point from your statement: AP wasn't paid because of actions AP took that lead the NFL to punish/ suspend him. NONE of that was the Vikings doing something to AP.

[Mothman]

So what? He was paid millions of dollars for 10 games and he only played one... does that make it any better?

I think the point is to try to use facts when possible.

[Mothman]

DK you are omitting a critical point from your statement: AP wasn't paid because of actions AP took that lead the NFL to punish/ suspend him. NONE of that was the Vikings doing something to AP.

Nobody is suggesting otherwise so I don't understand why that point comes up up again and again. Who disputes that it was Peterson's actions that set the legal system, the time spent on the exempt list, etc. in motion? That's a given. It's understood.

[jackal]

I have to admit even though I new Peterson had some left in the tank, I wanted to dump him after the last time
he said he wanted Dallas and not us.

[dead_poet]

I think the point is to try to use facts when possible.

[Mothman]

Oh, that Reagan...

[VikingLord]

Like I said, its speculation (probably wild) and assumptions but a theory on why Adrian may be so disgruntled with the organization. This also isn't meant as a defense to him as it is his actions that are to blame but just something I had been thinking about over the past day.

Pretty much everything you pointed out suggests AD should be directing his ire primarily at the league itself and not the Vikings.

And does anyone else find it strange that when AD first started talking about not returning, he seemed more focused on people in Minnesota outside of the Vikings organization like some in the media and some fans. There wasn't much talk about the Vikings per se, at least that I remember, but now it's turned completely on its head and it seems to be all about the Vikings. The league, and specifically Goodell, seem to be absent from the conversation.

For me, it seems like AD wants out, and has maybe wanted out for a while (I still find those revelations about AD talking to Jerry Jones interesting). He signed a contract and maybe intended to keep playing in Minnesota, but maybe something changed in his personal life or situation that made him want to play somewhere else. And maybe this whole situation has just created what AD perceives as an opportunity to take action on that front. Heck, its possible he even believed the Vikings themselves might want to part ways with him after what happened, and now that it is clear they do not he might be the one telling his agent to ramp up the rhetoric against the organization to try to force their hand now that a amicable and mutual divorce seems unlikely.

The fact that the agent won't even meet with the Vikings is nuts. AD might be able to break 10 tackles on his way to a 100 yard TD, but he can't get out of his contract.

[808vikingsfan]

First of all, let's remember that Dogra is a sports agent. He has no public humility or shame, so they can, and will say anything they need, to get their client as much money and favorable benefits as possible.

Wouldn't Dogra receive commission on any new contract that his client signs? I'm guessing Dogra won't make a dime if Peterson stays in Minnesota.

[Purple bruise]

Wouldn't Dogra receive commission on any new contract that his client signs? I'm guessing Dogra won't make a dime if Peterson stays in Minnesota.

That's a great point if he is not going to make anymore money than he already made whan AD signed his contract with the Vikes. Of course he would like to see a new contract with a new team and get his "cut".

[soflavike]

I think the point is to try to use facts when possible.

The facts are simple:

Adrian Peterson is paid to play football for the Minnesota Vikings and signed a contract with the Vikings.
Adrian beat his kid in a ridiculous manner, and got arrested for it.
This caused Adrian to only play one game for the Vikings last season. The Vikings paid him for 10 games (millions)
The Vikings want him back at his job this season, which he is under contract to do.
Adrian doesn't want to play for the Vikings, because he is butt hurt.

Does that sum it up, with just the facts?

[MikethePurple]

Pretty much everything you pointed out suggests AD should be directing his ire primarily at the league itself and not the Vikings.

And does anyone else find it strange that when AD first started talking about not returning, he seemed more focused on people in Minnesota outside of the Vikings organization like some in the media and some fans. There wasn't much talk about the Vikings per se, at least that I remember, but now it's turned completely on its head and it seems to be all about the Vikings. The league, and specifically Goodell, seem to be absent from the conversation.

For me, it seems like AD wants out, and has maybe wanted out for a while (I still find those revelations about AD talking to Jerry Jones interesting). He signed a contract and maybe intended to keep playing in Minnesota, but maybe something changed in his personal life or situation that made him want to play somewhere else. And maybe this whole situation has just created what AD perceives as an opportunity to take action on that front. Heck, its possible he even believed the Vikings themselves might want to part ways with him after what happened, and now that it is clear they do not he might be the one telling his agent to ramp up the rhetoric against the organization to try to force their hand now that a amicable and mutual divorce seems unlikely.

The fact that the agent won't even meet with the Vikings is nuts. AD might be able to break 10 tackles on his way to a 100 yard TD, but he can't get out of his contract.

I agree that based on the facts we know Adrian's ire should be directed at the league's policies and Vincent's misleading promises but what I was trying to speculate on was the reason he is so upset with the Vikings. Specifically, that they may have played a larger part (along with the league) in convincing him to take a plea deal with the incentive that he would be able to get back on the field for a portion of the season. Under those assumptions, he pleaded guilty and afterwards he saw the Vikings play a part in keeping him off the field. I have no knowledge that this was the case, it was just speculation on why AD might be angry with the Vikings. Its just as, if not more, likely that his anger is totally misguided and he is completely in the wrong, hence the reasons I highlighted his previous issues with questionable judgment. I was just trying to think of a plausible scenario that could explain a reasonable justification for AD's antipathy towards playing for the Vikings.

I would say a lot of what has come out from AD's side has not added up given the information that has been made public and my post was to try to make some sense of what his camp has been thinking with some possible justifications (in their eyes) of the reasons behind these actions based on previous events. The problem is we don't know some of the facts and haven't been in on the conversations that have gone on between all parties. It was speculation based on previous statements and actions in the context of the past year's developments.

[Mothman]

Pretty much everything you pointed out suggests AD should be directing his ire primarily at the league itself and not the Vikings.

And does anyone else find it strange that when AD first started talking about not returning, he seemed more focused on people in Minnesota outside of the Vikings organization like some in the media and some fans. There wasn't much talk about the Vikings per se, at least that I remember, but now it's turned completely on its head and it seems to be all about the Vikings. The league, and specifically Goodell, seem to be absent from the conversation.

That may be on the advice of his lawyer. peterson still needs Goodell to take him off the exempt list in order to play plus theres a lawsuit pending that was filed after a judge ruled in favor of peterson and the NFLPA last month.

Peterson expressed his misgivings about the Vikings all the way back in his first extensive interview after his court case had been settled, so I don't think anything has been turned on it's head here. Adam Schefter's Facebook post/report about Kevin Warren appeared a few days after that, on November 23rd:

When Adrian Peterson told USA Today there were people in Vikings' organization who did want him back and people in the organization who didn't, the person he was referring to who wasn't in favor of his return was the team's general counsel, Kevin Warren, per league sources. Warren and the NFL have been working to make sure Peterson did not return this season, per sources familiar with the case. Now there are questions about whether Peterson will return to Minnesota at all next season. There were those in the Vikings organization who were, and still are, in favor of Peterson's return, including the coaches, front office and players. But per sources, Peterson believes at least one individual didn't want him back.

The fact that the agent won't even meet with the Vikings is nuts. AD might be able to break 10 tackles on his way to a 100 yard TD, but he can't get out of his contract.

Time will tell. I'm guessing he'll get a renegotiated deal with the Vikings, or he'll get traded, before the season begins.