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VikingLord wrote: Dude, learn how to quote prior messages. It's not that hard. You can preview your messages before posting even.

As to the sentiment you express here, glad to hear you have the time not only to cheer on your team (while misspelling vicariously - spell check is also a feature of the board), but also the time to come to the message board of a team your team isn't even playing to attempt to troll a fan of said team.

I'm not a mod on here, but if I were, I'd ban you for trolling until the Vikings beat the Falcons, at which point I'd let you back on.

Breesus wrote:Hi All, Saints fan here from the deep south, where it's a balmy 50 deg. I promise I'm not here to troll, though I think the OP may be. Just wanted to read fan thoughts and give you the opponents take...

I would've much preferred to play the Iggles in the Divisional round, and I think the Failcons will will come away with that win. That's not good for the Vikes or the Saints because I think they are the most dangerous 6th seed we've seen in a while.

I think we all agree that the Vikes have a serviceable offense and a very good defense, just as the Saints have a serviceable defense and a very good offense. The best thing the Vikes can do is mimic the Panthers strategy in the wild card round - stack the box and take the running game away. This didn't work well for the Panthers because Brees lit them up, but the Panthers don't have Rhoads and two outstanding safeties. If the Vikes secondary can effectively man-up on Saints receivers, then the Vikes front seven will give Brees trouble. I've seen a lot of comments here about Brees being immobile, but I would disagree. He's no Russell Wilson, but he has an excellent awareness of closing pressure and is athletic enough to scramble. He's also very good at throwing on the run. Still, if the run game is slowed and the Vikes get pressure, Brees will have trouble.

The other side of the ball is a big question mark for me. The Saints D is an opportunistic, bend-but-don't-break group with a couple of elite playmakers - Cam Jordan and Marshon Lattimore. Lattimore will probably post up on Thielen all day, and that should be a good matchup. However, other than our rook free safety, Williams, the rest of the Saints defensive backfield is generally weak. They can all make plays, but they can all get burnt as well. The Saints have been middling against the run, but I'm not overly concerned with Murray. I think McKinnon will pose a bigger problem.

So, elite offense (#2) meets elite defense (#1). It will be a great battle, but the game comes down to a middling Vikes offense (#11) versus a middling Saints defense (#17). Saints 28, Vikes 24

Wish I could make it up there to your fine city. Good luck and have fun, and try to be hospitable to the handful of Saints fans you encounter. I promise if you ever make it down to the Superdome, you'll be welcomed and shown a good time. The only battles should be on the field.

mosscarter wrote:I'm simply calling it like I see it. I was at the Steeler game early on in the year and that offensive performance was as bad as I've ever seen. At the end of the day, they have Brees, and we have Keenum. Now, maybe this is Keenum's breakout year and he will take strides forward (albeit likely not with us sadly), or is he one game away from what he's done for the majority of his career? That is why I have an uneasy feeling with this match up--our defense simply cannot have a letdown in any capacity for this team to win from here out. That is a lot to ask.
In 98 I felt we would win, in 09 I felt the same, and in 2015 I thought we would lose. I find it hard to imagine how fans (true fans) cannot overlook the bad misfortunes of this franchise. You can sit there and say there is no curse all you want, well how else do you explain some of the things that happened? We had a freaking kicker not miss an extra point or field goal all year are you kidding me!! Nobody can script something that absurd. Then, after Favre put in the guttiest performance I've ever seen, we literally had the overtime rules rewritten over the fact that people literally felt bad for us (part of me truly believes that). Sorry for feeling this way, but my question is what could possibly be next? I've simply been conditioned to disappointment with this team and I apologize if I brought others down because of that. I see a Saints team that can win via the run or the pass, and that is a tall order for any defense to face.

Mark Ingram	   1540
Alvin Kamara	  1554
Michael Thomas	1245
Ted Ginn	       826
Brandon Coleman	364
Coby Fleener	   295

Adam Thielen	    1287
Jerick McKinnon	  991
Latavius Murray	  945
Stefon Diggs	     862
Kyle Rudolph	     532
Laquon Treadwell	 200
Jarius Wright	    198

Raptorman wrote: Let me address this. Two players make up most of their offense. Kamara and Ingrahm. Stop them and you stop the Saints.

Yards from scrimmage.

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Mark Ingram	   1540
Alvin Kamara	  1554
Michael Thomas	1245
Ted Ginn	       826
Brandon Coleman	364
Coby Fleener	   295

Vikings are more balanced on offense.

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Adam Thielen	    1287
Jerick McKinnon	  991
Latavius Murray	  945
Stefon Diggs	     862
Kyle Rudolph	     532
Laquon Treadwell	 200
Jarius Wright	    198

mosscarter wrote:I'm simply calling it like I see it. I was at the Steeler game early on in the year and that offensive performance was as bad as I've ever seen. At the end of the day, they have Brees, and we have Keenum. Now, maybe this is Keenum's breakout year and he will take strides forward (albeit likely not with us sadly), or is he one game away from what he's done for the majority of his career? That is why I have an uneasy feeling with this match up--our defense simply cannot have a letdown in any capacity for this team to win from here out. That is a lot to ask.
In 98 I felt we would win, in 09 I felt the same, and in 2015 I thought we would lose. I find it hard to imagine how fans (true fans) cannot overlook the bad misfortunes of this franchise. You can sit there and say there is no curse all you want, well how else do you explain some of the things that happened? We had a freaking kicker not miss an extra point or field goal all year are you kidding me!! Nobody can script something that absurd. Then, after Favre put in the guttiest performance I've ever seen, we literally had the overtime rules rewritten over the fact that people literally felt bad for us (part of me truly believes that). Sorry for feeling this way, but my question is what could possibly be next? I've simply been conditioned to disappointment with this team and I apologize if I brought others down because of that. I see a Saints team that can win via the run or the pass, and that is a tall order for any defense to face.

mosscarter wrote:That is a good point there Raptorman and it brings me some optimistic vibes with both rushing attacks. Waynes can cover Ginn every day of the week, but can we stop the run too? That is the question.

mosscarter wrote:I'm simply calling it like I see it. I was at the Steeler game early on in the year and that offensive performance was as bad as I've ever seen. At the end of the day, they have Brees, and we have Keenum. Now, maybe this is Keenum's breakout year and he will take strides forward (albeit likely not with us sadly), or is he one game away from what he's done for the majority of his career? That is why I have an uneasy feeling with this match up--our defense simply cannot have a letdown in any capacity for this team to win from here out. That is a lot to ask.
In 98 I felt we would win, in 09 I felt the same, and in 2015 I thought we would lose. I find it hard to imagine how fans (true fans) cannot overlook the bad misfortunes of this franchise. You can sit there and say there is no curse all you want, well how else do you explain some of the things that happened? We had a freaking kicker not miss an extra point or field goal all year are you kidding me!! Nobody can script something that absurd. Then, after Favre put in the guttiest performance I've ever seen, we literally had the overtime rules rewritten over the fact that people literally felt bad for us (part of me truly believes that). Sorry for feeling this way, but my question is what could possibly be next? I've simply been conditioned to disappointment with this team and I apologize if I brought others down because of that. I see a Saints team that can win via the run or the pass, and that is a tall order for any defense to face.

Falcons34 wrote: 3) why you mad tho

mosscarter wrote:That is a good point there Raptorman and it brings me some optimistic vibes with both rushing attacks. Waynes can cover Ginn every day of the week, but can we stop the run too? That is the question.

Breesus wrote:Hi All, Saints fan here from the deep south, where it's a balmy 50 deg. I promise I'm not here to troll, though I think the OP may be. Just wanted to read fan thoughts and give you the opponents take...

I would've much preferred to play the Iggles in the Divisional round, and I think the Failcons will will come away with that win. That's not good for the Vikes or the Saints because I think they are the most dangerous 6th seed we've seen in a while.

I think we all agree that the Vikes have a serviceable offense and a very good defense, just as the Saints have a serviceable defense and a very good offense. The best thing the Vikes can do is mimic the Panthers strategy in the wild card round - stack the box and take the running game away. This didn't work well for the Panthers because Brees lit them up, but the Panthers don't have Rhoads and two outstanding safeties. If the Vikes secondary can effectively man-up on Saints receivers, then the Vikes front seven will give Brees trouble. I've seen a lot of comments here about Brees being immobile, but I would disagree. He's no Russell Wilson, but he has an excellent awareness of closing pressure and is athletic enough to scramble. He's also very good at throwing on the run. Still, if the run game is slowed and the Vikes get pressure, Brees will have trouble.

The other side of the ball is a big question mark for me. The Saints D is an opportunistic, bend-but-don't-break group with a couple of elite playmakers - Cam Jordan and Marshon Lattimore. Lattimore will probably post up on Thielen all day, and that should be a good matchup. However, other than our rook free safety, Williams, the rest of the Saints defensive backfield is generally weak. They can all make plays, but they can all get burnt as well. The Saints have been middling against the run, but I'm not overly concerned with Murray. I think McKinnon will pose a bigger problem.

So, elite offense (#2) meets elite defense (#1). It will be a great battle, but the game comes down to a middling Vikes offense (#11) versus a middling Saints defense (#17). Saints 28, Vikes 24

Wish I could make it up there to your fine city. Good luck and have fun, and try to be hospitable to the handful of Saints fans you encounter. I promise if you ever make it down to the Superdome, you'll be welcomed and shown a good time. The only battles should be on the field.