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Well, Cassel is now expected to be released so he should be available if you want (but seriously, don't want). If that's the case, kudos again to Rick for essentially stealing a fifth-round pick (and seventh-rounder) while arguably also upgrading the position.

dead_poet wrote:Well, Cassel is now expected to be released so he should be available if you want (but seriously, don't want). If that's the case, kudos again to Rick for essentially stealing a fifth-round pick (and seventh-rounder) while arguably also upgrading the position.

Does he wind up back in New England to back up Jimmy G during Brady's suspension?

fiestavike wrote: Does he wind up back in New England to back up Jimmy G during Brady's suspension?

Only to end up #3 on the depth chart or released? I don't know. There are probably teams out there with worse backups.

I'd still take Cassel over Hill but let's hope it doesn't matter.

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Cassell over Hill all day, every day. But that point is mute.

Heiny isnt going to last on the PS. I posted this on another thread, but someone looking for a cheap #2 QB is going to snatch him up.

PurpleKoolaid wrote:Cassell over Hill all day, every day. But that point is mute.

Heiny isnt going to last on the PS. I posted this on another thread, but someone looking for a cheap #2 QB is going to snatch him up.

Great, the Cassel apologists are back out in force


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frosted wrote: Great, the Cassel apologists are back out in force


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Is there any difference between a Cassel "apologist" and a Hill "apologist"? They're both veteran QBs with experience and consistency but limited upside.

DK Sweets wrote:Is there any difference between a Cassel "apologist" and a Hill "apologist"? They're both veteran QBs with experience and consistency but limited upside.

That comment was made with tongue in cheek..sorry for the confusion.


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And shoot, we didn't draft Shaun Hill, either. He's gotta go. Who is going to take his spot?

I'm just really perplexed by this, so unless you have a lot of answers, can we pump the breaks on the doom and gloom for a second?

? We didn't draft Hill so he's gotta go? What does that have to do with the ridiculous idea of developing a guy? And where is this doom and gloom coming from? Do you want to count every QB drafted in the history of the league that was a third string, and how they ended up? Does that look like "doom and gloom" to you? We can sign a find an equivalent QB in free agency, off the street, on another teams practice squad. Every year throughout the draft.

I think I actually understand your point but I'd rather see them go with 3 QBs. In the injury-plagued NFL, it's not unusual for teams to need to play the third QB on their roster. The Rams were down to theirs before the end of the week 1 opener against the Vikes last year. The Vikes were forced to start their 3rd QB in week 5.

And what did it get them? Obviously the Vikes situation was different, that #3 should have been starting. But "develop".
If our #3 is starting, it doesn't matter who it is, we aren't accomplishing anything. Same goes for every team that ends up starting their #3 for any period of time.
Worst case Teddy and Hill go down in the same game, chances the #3 QB makes a difference in that game? Compared to having some better play on special teams throughout EVERY game. Or another rotational guy at any number of positions who will see the field every game?

We have a franchise QB, and a veteran backup. That should be more than enough. We heard this same "he won't make the practice squad" stuff how many times in the last decade about how many of the diamonds in the rough we've had for a potential #3? It wasn't a reality then, and it sure isn't a reality now when we have a bonafide #1 franchise QB out there. Instead of the trash leading up to this.

PurpleKoolaid wrote:Cassell over Hill all day, every day. But that point is mute.

Heiny isnt going to last on the PS. I posted this on another thread, but someone looking for a cheap #2 QB is going to snatch him up.

Cassel can't beat out Tyrod Taylor and EJ Manuel. Let me repeat that.....Tyrod Taylor and EJ Manuel!!! But he's so much better than Hill?? Ok There isn't enough difference between the two and you know that.

And how is Heinecke not going to last on the practice squad?? He's been great all preseason.

I just don't get it, guys complain about how important the #3 QB spot is before the draft and how we have to develop somebody and now people are saying go with 2 QBs and Heinecke (who is a good developmental guy) isn't going to make the PS? This entire post just doesnt seem very logical to me at all

I continue to shake my head that guys wish we had Cassel instead of Hill when Cassel can't beat out 2 legitimate bums that are well below average starters If you can't be a number 2 over EJ MANUEL, you think he would be a good #2 on this team?? Give me a break. He was owed too much, wasn't good, and needed to be let go and CLEARLY, Spielman made the right move.

Demi wrote: ? We didn't draft Hill so he's gotta go? What does that have to do with the ridiculous idea of developing a guy? And where is this doom and gloom coming from? Do you want to count every QB drafted in the history of the league that was a third string, and how they ended up? Does that look like "doom and gloom" to you? We can sign a find an equivalent QB in free agency, off the street, on another teams practice squad. Every year throughout the draft..

Demi wrote:Just go with two QBs. Seems like we have a great guy to develop every two years, and they dont develop, or last two years. You don't develop QBs, you find them, draft them, and start them.

You're the one who said you just draft and start QBs, not me. I'm was questioning if there just might be alternate possibilities.

Pondering Her Percy wrote: Cassel can't beat out Tyrod Taylor and EJ Manuel. Let me repeat that.....Tyrod Taylor and EJ Manuel!!! But he's so much better than Hill?? Ok There isn't enough difference between the two and you know that.

And how is Heinecke not going to last on the practice squad?? He's been great all preseason.

I just don't get it, guys complain about how important the #3 QB spot is before the draft and how we have to develop somebody and now people are saying go with 2 QBs and Heinecke (who is a good developmental guy) isn't going to make the PS? This entire post just doesnt seem very logical to me at all

Don't really care what happened in Buffalo. There are more factors than just who is the better QB, look what happen here in Minnesota in 2013.

Contracts aside, if Bridgewater goes down for the season in week 1, I'd take Cassel over Hill any day of the week. Not saying I don't like Hill, he's a good backup. I just think Cassel can be very effective given the right cast.

You may continue shaking your head.

Demi wrote:
You don't develop QBs, you find them, draft them, and start them.

Um, no. Not. even. close.

Pondering Her Percy wrote: Cassel can't beat out Tyrod Taylor and EJ Manuel. Let me repeat that.....Tyrod Taylor and EJ Manuel!!! But he's so much better than Hill?? Ok There isn't enough difference between the two and you know that.

And how is Heinecke not going to last on the practice squad?? He's been great all preseason.

I just don't get it, guys complain about how important the #3 QB spot is before the draft and how we have to develop somebody and now people are saying go with 2 QBs and Heinecke (who is a good developmental guy) isn't going to make the PS? This entire post just doesnt seem very logical to me at all

The Bills are hardly the standard when it comes to judging QBs.