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Pondering Her Percy wrote:Not sure if anyone said this or not in this thread but Clemmings play pretty solid yesterday. I said this earlier last week regarding him. I have an odd feeling he is going to be pretty solid over there. Allowed just two hurries and one hit in 30 attempts. Not bad at all for his first start at LT. This would be huge if he could develop into a solid LT. It's one of the hardest positions to find and without a first round pick next year, there is a chance we'd have to re-sign Kalil. Lets hope Clemmings continues this type of play

Pondering Her Percy wrote:Not sure if anyone said this or not in this thread but Clemmings play pretty solid yesterday. I said this earlier last week regarding him. I have an odd feeling he is going to be pretty solid over there. Allowed just two hurries and one hit in 30 attempts. Not bad at all for his first start at LT. This would be huge if he could develop into a solid LT. It's one of the hardest positions to find and without a first round pick next year, there is a chance we'd have to re-sign Kalil. Lets hope Clemmings continues this type of play

TSonn wrote:I don't think it is fair to go back to last season with that stat. We have different players and different coaches. Granted, 3 TDs in 3 games this year is still concerning but we can take it just from when Bradford started we are 3 TDs in 2 games. Plus, with the defense and special teams scoring points, the coaches aren't taking unnecessary risks on offense when maybe we'd be putting up more points if the D wasn't as dominant.

The Vikings cannot be counted out of any game these days, even if their opponent is as formidable as the one they faced Sunday. They haven't given up more than 16 points in seven straight games, dating back to last December, and a team that didn't excel at creating turnovers last season has fashioned a plus-8 margin already this year. As the Vikings left Charlotte with a 22-10 win on Sunday, overcoming a 10-0 deficit and battering Cam Newton for eight sacks, their defense made a case it should be on a very short list of the league's best.

chicagopurple wrote:Yo Moth! being the clear eyed, stodgy, realist is never sexy or popular.....But more often then not, you will be proven right in the end. I have the same overall opinion as yourself. Its not a fun perspective, but its likely the most correct viewpoint.

PacificNorseWest wrote:The defense carried over their entire unit into this season from how it looked to end last season, whereas the offensive personnel looks quite a bit different today as it did in Seattle for the Wild Card.

Meanwhile, go defense! Am I right, fellas?

Mothman wrote: I tried to lightheartedly post a positive stat about the defense and I still got grief.

It's been one of the league's weaker offenses for the past 2 years. That trend is continuing. If you guys think it's unfair to consider what we've seen the past 2 years and feel we need to say the trend is only 3 weeks old because the offensive personnel has changed somewhat, fine. It doesn't make it any less problematic.

Meanwhile, go defense! Am I right, fellas?

Pondering Her Percy wrote:Not sure if anyone said this or not in this thread but Clemmings play pretty solid yesterday. I said this earlier last week regarding him. I have an odd feeling he is going to be pretty solid over there. Allowed just two hurries and one hit in 30 attempts. Not bad at all for his first start at LT. This would be huge if he could develop into a solid LT. It's one of the hardest positions to find and without a first round pick next year, there is a chance we'd have to re-sign Kalil. Lets hope Clemmings continues this type of play

Mothman wrote:
It's been one of the league's weaker offenses for the past 2 years. That trend is continuing. If you guys think it's unfair to consider what we've seen the past 2 years and feel we need to say the trend is only 3 weeks old because the offensive personnel has changed somewhat, fine. It doesn't make it any less problematic.

Meanwhile, go defense! Am I right, fellas?

The superb performance by the Vikings’ defense was the talk of the game, but the resiliency of the offense also deserved acknowledgement. This was the type of game the Vikings have played on the road for years and rarely won.

Yet, they beat the Panthers going away and they did it in part because an offense that couldn’t shoot straight for 30 minutes managed to get its act together during halftime.

One reason the Leslie Frazier and Christian Ponder era became maddening was because the typical postgame response after losses was that the mistakes were “easily correctable.” The obvious thought was that if things could be easily corrected why didn’t you correct them during the game?

That isn’t a problem with Zimmer and his coaching staff on both sides of the ball. Bradford, who finished 18 of 28 for 171 yards with the touchdown pass, said there were “definitely adjustments to be made at halftime.”

For instance, after targeting Kyle Rudolph only twice in the opening half, the tight end had eight passes directed his way in the final two quarters. Rudolph finished with seven receptions for 70 yards after catching only one pass for 4 yards in the first half.

“You look at what we came out and did in the second half,” Bradford said. “We got to some of our quicker stuff, we got to empty (in the backfield) a few times, we tried to spread them out. As much zone coverage as they were playing, we felt like there was some air in there if we could get to space and kind of spread them out. I think that’s kind of what we did.”

halfgiz wrote:
There's issues with the OL. Part of it has been coaching, though so far it has been difficult to see the progress under Sparano. Part of it is on Spielman, since he's been unwilling to allocate high draft picks to fixing the line, so we end up with a lot of day 3 picks, trades for backups, and lower tier FAs. I also wonder if there are scouting issues, because they haven't been able to field a good OL for at least 4 years if not longer. The Beaver pick is a fine example of that.