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VikingsVictorious wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 12:41 am

StumpHunter wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 11:07 pm
The cap could have cleared up any number of ways, there was no benefit from doing it with a Cousins extension. In fact the extension hurts our ability to sign players this season.

This offense is going to positively suck this year. It isn't going to get better trading away one of the best players on offense, it is going to get worse. That 22nd pick looks great until it becomes a rookie who needs time to develop if he even develops at all. The team is going to lose double digits, Rick is going to canned and so is Zimmer.

And people are happy about this trade. Wow.

The Vikings have 2 firsts 1 second and 2 thirds in this years draft. That's about the same draft capital that the Cowboys used to create their dynasty. Not saying I'm just saying.

RandyMoss84 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 12:39 am

S197 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 12:38 am

The Texans made a stupid trade but they are two different transactions. No one knows if the Bills had the same offer on the table. The Texans obviously think very highly of Johnson who was also part of the deal.

Except Johnson sucks, Texans made a very stupid trade

Raptorman wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 12:06 am If Diggs didn't like Cousins he'll love Allen.

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Rk     Player       From  To    G    QBrec      Cmp  Att    Cmp%     Yds   TD   Rate    Int
1    Josh Allen    2018 2019     28  15-12-0    440  781    56.3    5163   30   78.2    21
2    Kirk Cousins   2018 2019    31  18-12-1    732 1050    69.7    7901   56  103.0    16

RandyMoss84 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 12:46 am

VikingsVictorious wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 12:41 am

The Vikings have 2 firsts 1 second and 2 thirds in this years draft. That's about the same draft capital that the Cowboys used to create their dynasty. Not saying I'm just saying.

Yeah except Vikings gave alot more picks than those 4 picks to the Cowboys

S197 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 12:47 am

RandyMoss84 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 12:39 am

Except Johnson sucks, Texans made a very stupid trade

Yeah it’s almost like I said that...

S197 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 12:38 am

RandyMoss84 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 12:33 am

Buffalo gave up 4 picks for Diggs which they could have gave up 2 picks for Hopkins for cheaper, Bills got fleeced and Bill fans are saying the same and said Bills should have gotten Hopkins for cheap instead of giving up a boatload for Diggs

The Texans made a stupid trade but they are two different transactions. No one knows if the Bills had the same offer on the table. The Texans obviously think very highly of Johnson who was also part of the deal.

VikingsVictorious wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 12:52 am

S197 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 12:38 am

The Texans made a stupid trade but they are two different transactions. No one knows if the Bills had the same offer on the table. The Texans obviously think very highly of Johnson who was also part of the deal.

Johnson used to be great, but is now horrible. He fell off a cliff much the same as Xavier Rhodes. IMO he is a very negative part of that trade.

Raptorman wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 12:06 am If Diggs didn't like Cousins he'll love Allen.

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Rk     Player       From  To    G    QBrec      Cmp  Att    Cmp%     Yds   TD   Rate    Int
1    Josh Allen    2018 2019     28  15-12-0    440  781    56.3    5163   30   78.2    21
2    Kirk Cousins   2018 2019    31  18-12-1    732 1050    69.7    7901   56  103.0    16

StumpHunter wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:20 am

Raptorman wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 12:06 am If Diggs didn't like Cousins he'll love Allen.

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Rk     Player       From  To    G    QBrec      Cmp  Att    Cmp%     Yds   TD   Rate    Int
1    Josh Allen    2018 2019     28  15-12-0    440  781    56.3    5163   30   78.2    21
2    Kirk Cousins   2018 2019    31  18-12-1    732 1050    69.7    7901   56  103.0    16

Brown did pretty well with Allen last year, and I expect Diggs to do the same.

But yes, our 7th year QB has better numbers than a guy who has played fewer than 2 full seasons. You make a point.

808vikingsfan wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:35 am

StumpHunter wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:20 am

Brown did pretty well with Allen last year, and I expect Diggs to do the same.

But yes, our 7th year QB has better numbers than a guy who has played fewer than 2 full seasons. You make a point.

I'd take Allen over Cousins right now. Younger, cheaper, more upside. Love his fire, his physical skills, the way he extends plays. He's young and still learning. We already know what Cousins is and where he'll lead the Vikings. When you think about it, Diggs might be going to the better team.

VikingsVictorious wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 12:45 am

RandyMoss84 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 11:34 pm

The draft is a crapshoot so yeah, Vikings could draft a bust

That's true, but Diggs was a 5th round pick that we got several good and cheap years out of and he has now returned a first, fourth, fifth and sixth round pick.

StumpHunter wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 9:58 pm I wonder why he hated Kirk so much.

On a positive note, we should be in a good spot to draft a QB high in the draft next season.

Diggs had an elite year in 2019. Not good, not great, elite. He played in an offense that didn't throw the ball a lot, but on a per pass basis, only Michael Thomas caught more yards per pass attempt than Diggs did.

He was the passing offense last year and without him I have no idea how we are going to move the ball through the air. Hopefully they extend Cook now, because if he holds out, this could really turn into a disaster.