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I'm not sold because of things Demi hit on, but he definitely has something unique and more of that "it" factor that others of his skillset do not possess. It doesn't mean he's NFL..Scratch that...Super Bowl winning caliber.JellyBean2144 wrote:Much as I hate the hyping of Johnny Football, I do like his swag. If we were picking a QB I would want this dude on my team. He is a gamer.
I was also screaming at my TV in 2003 for them to select one Drew Brees from Purdue, after watching him light the Goophers up for 3 years. Good teams draft a QB even when they have one, because nobody knows when that knee is going to get tore up. They would have trophy if they woulda. And it's nice to have good backups, and a trade chip down the road.80 PurplePride 84 wrote: Cmon. They passed on Rodgers twice because they had Culpepper coming off a 39 TD season. No one could foresee his knee exploding the following season.
Please! Except for Young early in his career, none of these guys are considered running QBs like Vick. They CAN run but they won Super Bowls because of their passing skills. When Young became a passer first is when he earned his spot in the HOF.Boon wrote: Like rodgers, steve young, big ben, those guys?
Ugghhh! And when Brees had the shoulder surgery and the Chargers picked Rivers, everyone knew Brees was done in SD. I screamed from the rooftops, "Get Brees!! Whatever you have to do. Back the Brinks truck up to his front door. GET HIM!!!"PurpleHalo wrote:I was also screaming at my TV in 2003 for them to select one Drew Brees from Purdue, after watching him light the Goophers up for 3 years. Good teams draft a QB even when they have one, because nobody knows when that knee is going to get tore up. They would have trophy if they woulda. And it's nice to have good backups, and a trade chip down the road.
Everyone was scared of that shoulder around the league, I wasn't worried at all. I knew he would be a steal for the Saints. If the Chargers had it to do again, think they woulda went with Carson Palmer 2.0 (Rivers) over Brees?majorm wrote: Ugghhh! And when Brees had the shoulder surgery and the Chargers picked Rivers, everyone knew Brees was done in SD. I screamed from the rooftops, "Get Brees!! Whatever you have to do. Back the Brinks truck up to his front door. GET HIM!!!"
Not just FSU. We can't reach. If that means not picking a QB in the first, FINE! Just like I said when we picked Ponder. You CAN'T force the QB position. And passing then picking some middle round "project" isn't going to work either. If we can try to trade up even take the loss and get the guy. Otherwise just suck it up.GBFavreFan wrote:What I love reading is how so many of you have such strong opinions about so many QB's as being the guy we HAVE to have. This bodes very well for next year as I take that to mean there are actually a handful of very capable guys and no matter where we land in the 1st round we should end up with someone good. As long as we don't go after any FSU guys who are projected to be 2nd or 3rd rounders ...
WHAT about Manziel remotely looks like Christian Ponder? Stats? Winning percentage? Anything? Show me an "expert" that has McCarron ranked above Manziel.PurpleKoolaid wrote:A.J. McCarron looks as good as anyone is we don't get the first few QB picks. Better then Johnny Football. That's the Ponder guy, not A.J. McCarron.
Good grief guys, he has a right to state his opinion. Besides, it was kinda funny. Whew... must be a rough season when people start dissing levity.GBFavreFan wrote: Well said Fox ...
What kind of offense do they run?MrPurplenGold wrote:I think a sleeper might actually be Zach Mettenberger from LSU. I live in SEC country and know a good bit about the LSU program and I know up until Les Miles hired Cam Cameron, Miles wouldn't give an OC coordinator much leeway in calling plays and determining offensive game plans. Now that Cam Cameron has come to LSU, someone Miles is very comfortable with, Mettenberger has begun to flourish. He will have a lot of tough games this year. LSU still has to play 5 teams that are currently in the top 25. If he can play well, I think he will move up draft boards as someone to keep an eye on.
Good line of thought, but some other teams that may be in the running:GBFavreFan wrote:Another factor is competition. In 2011, everyone was going after QB's (unfortunately the guy we wanted, no one else wanted since they all knew better) So if there really are a handful of standouts, competition will play a large part. This is how I'm seeing it now in order of probability they go QB at the 2014 draft.
1. Jaguars. Almost a guarantee they go QB. They had zero interest in Florida boys Tim Tebow and Josh Freeman, despite their injured and inept QB staff. They seem very content to stink it up for the best draft position possible. Only snag is if they get #1, since this Clowney kid has seemingly been dubbed the greatest football player of all time by too many "experts" so they might grab him.
2. Cardinals. Palmer is the stopgap, and while Arians is high on their backup Stanton, I would think they'd go QB in the 1st, regardless of how they finish in 2013. And who knows, with "questionable" Mathieu doing so well, maybe they go Manziel?
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3. Raiders. They don't seem very high on Flynn, and Pryor has this season to prove something, but they seem likely to get their "QB of the future" in the draft. Again, the season is young and both guys will have a chance, but if neither truly breaks through in spectacular fashion, its draft time.
4. Browns. Up until the Week 3 demolition of some NFC North team, the Browns seemed a guarantee to go QB in 2014. But at least for the moment, Hoyer seems to have potential, and he probably has this season to warrant keeping him, but at the least I would think Weeden will not start in 2014 for Cleveland.
Every other team either has their guy, or their "QB of the future" already on roster, or if other teams might be interested in grooming a guy (Chicago), I don't think they'd use a 1st rounder. So we have 2 teams, possibly 4 going after QB's. If Flynn, Pryor, or Hoyer pan out, I think that's good odds for the Vikings to get a very good QB in the 1st round a long as they get someone who is actually projected as a Top 3 QB. (remember Ponder was considered a reach by almost everyone in the world except Spielman.) So I don't see any real benefit in tanking it or a bright side in finishing with a poor record. If we're 4-12 or 10-6 I think we end up with the same guy.