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Texas Vike wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 4:09 pm

IIsweet wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 11:03 am This class has talent for sure, but not quite the same as the past couple, imo. Here is the following that may go rd 1 or into rd 2:
Matt Corral - Ole Miss
Kenny Pickett - Pittsburgh
Malik Willis - Liberty (Auburn transfer)
Sam Howell - North Carolina
Carson Strong - Nevada

I like the Willis kid for being so toolsy, and having more of that Mahomes swag in him. Tons of arm talent and the wheels to move the pocket and have some dual threat ability. He looks downfield for the big play often with a lot of arm talent and confidence in that arm talent, which can also lead to head scratching mistakes and INT's !! I would take it though. I think Deshaun Watson upside here.

Pickett is the most seasoned of them all and probably the easiest transition to being an NFL QB. To me, he could be an athletic Cousins and is discussion for best QB of the class.
Corral to me is Tannehill. Every tool you need and want. Concern is system he played in transitioning.
Howell is to me another Stafford or Lock type QB.
Strong is the big armed QB of the class.

I haven't watched highlights for all of these prospects yet, but Pickett looks spectacular. Loved his fake slide. Love his ability to sense pressure, move the pocket, keep his eyes up, run well if he has the space, throw guys open, etc. At 6' 3" 220 he's a specimen and a heck of an athlete too. Watched an interview with him. I like his grit and determination.

VikingLord wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 5:57 pm Zimmer knows what Zimmer knows which is the game right in front of him. Cousins is his starting QB, and he's going to play his starters and try to get a win.

This is yet another reason why Zimmer needs to go. He has no vision beyond the immediate. If he had vision he'd realize the focus should be shifting to the offseason and next season, which means he needs to get game film on his younger players.

In regards to Stump's question, the answer is it depends. It depends in large part on the situation each of those non-playoff teams is in at this juncture in their starting QB's career. If you're the Jags or the Lions and you don't have a young QB sitting and waiting his turn, you go with your regular starter. If you're a team with a starting QB who is near or at the end of his tenure with the team and you have a young prospect biding his time, I think you use a game like this upcoming game to get a good look at what you have going into the offseason.

A lot of the non-playoff teams are set at QB with their young prospects already. The Vikings are in a position where unless Cousins is the future, there is little point to trot him out there, and less to put Mannion out there. Mond, on the other hand, is a guy I'd think they'd want to see under game pressure, especially against the defensive front of the Bears who are likely to walk over, through, and around the Vikings OL yet again this upcoming game. See how Mond handles that. It could be very useful information heading into this upcoming draft.

J. Kapp 11 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 4:20 pm OK, I'm really interested.

Can somebody here actually justify Mike Zimmer NOT giving Justin Jefferson a chance to break the record on the Vikings' last possession?

I want this clown GONE. I hope they fire him before he leaves the building today.

J. Kapp 11 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 4:20 pm OK, I'm really interested.

Can somebody here actually justify Mike Zimmer NOT giving Justin Jefferson a chance to break the record on the Vikings' last possession?

I want this clown GONE. I hope they fire him before he leaves the building today.

40for60 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 4:32 pm

J. Kapp 11 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 4:20 pm OK, I'm really interested.

Can somebody here actually justify Mike Zimmer NOT giving Justin Jefferson a chance to break the record on the Vikings' last possession?

I want this clown GONE. I hope they fire him before he leaves the building today.

Just a dick move. I wonder if he was getting back at JJ for questioning the offense and team intensity after the Rams game. A very juvenile move ... almost like "I'm getting fired so screw that."

808vikingsfan wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 4:51 pm

J. Kapp 11 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 4:20 pm OK, I'm really interested.

Can somebody here actually justify Mike Zimmer NOT giving Justin Jefferson a chance to break the record on the Vikings' last possession?

I want this clown GONE. I hope they fire him before he leaves the building today.

I'm fine with it.

If it happened naturally during the course of the game, great. But kneeling was the right and only thing to do in that situation. Not even sure why the starters were playing with that lead in the first place. It already bugs me a little JJ needed an extra game to beat Moss, if it were forced, it'd be tainted in my eyes.

CharVike wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 5:39 pm

808vikingsfan wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 4:51 pm

I'm fine with it.

If it happened naturally during the course of the game, great. But kneeling was the right and only thing to do in that situation. Not even sure why the starters were playing with that lead in the first place. It already bugs me a little JJ needed an extra game to beat Moss, if it were forced, it'd be tainted in my eyes.

I agree with you. If they tried and JJ gets injured badly imagine the flak Zim would get for that. JJ should have many years in front to get records. He just better hope he has a guy that can get the ball to him playing QB.

808vikingsfan wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 5:51 pm

CharVike wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 5:39 pm
I agree with you. If they tried and JJ gets injured badly imagine the flak Zim would get for that. JJ should have many years in front to get records. He just better hope he has a guy that can get the ball to him playing QB.

And I think Zimmer was just showing respect for the game rather than an individual player. That's the problem with this whole team. A bunch of selfish individuals. Not saying JJ is selfish but the theme this year was definitely not "TEAM".

VikingsVictorious wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 10:30 am The Vikings should be trying to win. Heck with trying to lose. Cousins gives us the best chance to win so of course he should be starting.

CharVike wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 5:39 pm

808vikingsfan wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 4:51 pm

I'm fine with it.

If it happened naturally during the course of the game, great. But kneeling was the right and only thing to do in that situation. Not even sure why the starters were playing with that lead in the first place. It already bugs me a little JJ needed an extra game to beat Moss, if it were forced, it'd be tainted in my eyes.

I agree with you. If they tried and JJ gets injured badly imagine the flak Zim would get for that. JJ should have many years in front to get records. He just better hope he has a guy that can get the ball to him playing QB.

VikingLord wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:51 am

VikingsVictorious wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 10:30 am The Vikings should be trying to win. Heck with trying to lose. Cousins gives us the best chance to win so of course he should be starting.

Win now, or win in the future?

Sometimes you have to take a step back to take two forward.