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Posted: **Mon Dec 24, 2018 10:55 am**

I don't post much in the chat room,I don't really even look at it much when the game is on. My main reason for abstaining is that it is a mostly negative environment and I don't want to dwell on negativity during a game.This board is a great place to talk Vikings football and I do voice my concerns ,it's kind of therapeutic to vent frustrations about a team that you love. But once the trade deadline passes,the reality is that we have to make do with what we have. In my opinion, the Offensive line has been a weakness for last few years,and it was frustrating to watch us pass on improving the line in the first round of the draft. Management though selected a corner back in the first round instead and before he got hurt, he showed a lot of promise. It would be easy to complain and say we made a mistake , but hindsight is 20/20 and all you can do is move on and try to improve your team in other ways. I disagree with the poster who said that Reiff and Remmers would not even be backups on other NFL teams, no one predicted that Easton would be lost for the season, or that Elflein would not be ready to start the year. Our lack of quality depth has been a huge issue and if you can only field a mediocre starting line, you better have capable back ups that can step in. To have as large of an investment in the QB position as we do, you better be able to protect him better than we have.

Posted: **Mon Dec 24, 2018 12:00 pm**

Pondering Her Percy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 24, 2018 8:39 am
J. Kapp 11 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 23, 2018 11:15 pm
Had the Vikings lost today, it wouldn't have been complementary football. The defense or the special teams wouldn't have held up when the offense was struggling.

This board is exhausting.
Win or lose, this board is more than exhausting. Last week we win, but then we hear “Miami is banged up, they aren’t any good, coming off an emotional win, etc”. This week we win, “well the offense sucked early on, Cousins can’t move, Cousins holds the ball too long, etc”. And when we lose?! Lookout. This has hands down been the most depressing year on this board. All because we didn’t repeat last years success, which is hard to do regardless (look at the Vikings, jags and eagles this year).

I’m pulling myself from the chat once again. And I’m doing it for the rest of the year. The last two weeks have been HANDS DOWN, the worst two weeks in that chat room all year. And the sad thing is, the Vikings won both games....by a mile. If our QB throws one ball in the dirt, it’s talked about all game. 21 for 28, 253 and 3 tds no turnovers, we win by 18 and he still gets ripped on. The poor guy cant win. No I don’t think he’s god, no I don’t think he’s Tom Brady, but the guy is still good. And sorry, a guy that has that kind of game, shouldn’t be getting crucified in a chat room. This board has turned into negative land. And those fans know exactly who they are. The same ones every week. Kirk throws one ball in the dirt and you have to read the sarcastic “NICE THROW KIRK” every freaking time...like why? I swear that was said on all 7 incompletions. Guys didn’t even do that with Ponder. It brings nothing to the chat. Or if he takes a sack (god forbid), we hear “THROW THE BALL” or “NICE MOBILTY”. Not just once, EVERY TIME he takes a sack. Does he have bad throws? Yeah like every QB. Does he hold the ball too long here and there? Yeah like every QB. But these are said on EVERY incompletion or sack. Like grow up. If you’re a cousins hater, so be it, but the ones on here take it to a WHOLE new level. Kirk has a good game and the Vikings win? Ok let’s run to excuse land to complain about why it wasn’t good enough. It’s nothing but a di** measuring contest every week. Never has this board been like this. I’m ready to be done for good sooner than later

If the chats bother you so damn much why do you keep coming back. It's beyond annoying to hear how awful the fans are and how you are going to eb the bigger person and everyone's hero and leave the chat, only for you to come back 30nseconds later and argue with people who beg you to foe them. Why haven't you foed people who piss you off?
If you don't like the negativity, DON'T JOIN THE CHAT. I don't understand why it's so hard.

Posted: **Mon Dec 24, 2018 12:16 pm**

Pondering Her Percy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 24, 2018 8:39 am
Win or lose, this board is more than exhausting. Last week we win, but then we hear “Miami is banged up, they aren’t any good, coming off an emotional win, etc”. This week we win, “well the offense sucked early on, Cousins can’t move, Cousins holds the ball too long, etc”. And when we lose?! Lookout. This has hands down been the most depressing year on this board. All because we didn’t repeat last years success, which is hard to do regardless (look at the Vikings, jags and eagles this year).

I’m pulling myself from the chat once again. And I’m doing it for the rest of the year. The last two weeks have been HANDS DOWN, the worst two weeks in that chat room all year. And the sad thing is, the Vikings won both games....by a mile. If our QB throws one ball in the dirt, it’s talked about all game. 21 for 28, 253 and 3 tds no turnovers, we win by 18 and he still gets ripped on. The poor guy cant win. No I don’t think he’s god, no I don’t think he’s Tom Brady, but the guy is still good. And sorry, a guy that has that kind of game, shouldn’t be getting crucified in a chat room. This board has turned into negative land. And those fans know exactly who they are. The same ones every week. Kirk throws one ball in the dirt and you have to read the sarcastic “NICE THROW KIRK” every freaking time...like why? I swear that was said on all 7 incompletions. Guys didn’t even do that with Ponder. It brings nothing to the chat. Or if he takes a sack (god forbid), we hear “THROW THE BALL” or “NICE MOBILTY”. Not just once, EVERY TIME he takes a sack. Does he have bad throws? Yeah like every QB. Does he hold the ball too long here and there? Yeah like every QB. But these are said on EVERY incompletion or sack. Like grow up. If you’re a cousins hater, so be it, but the ones on here take it to a WHOLE new level. Kirk has a good game and the Vikings win? Ok let’s run to excuse land to complain about why it wasn’t good enough. It’s nothing but a di** measuring contest every week. Never has this board been like this. I’m ready to be done for good sooner than later

I say this in my most soothing, calming voice.....

I root for Kirk Cousins. Kirk Cousins is a good QB.

I know you have taken on the roll of "The Great Cousins Defender". That's ok. (I am like that with Keenum). I just don't think he can take a team to the Super Bowl, especially this team. You are right that every QB, even the great ones miss wide open receivers, but not EVERY game. Every single game this year, Cousins has thrown some horribly inaccurate balls and missed wide open receivers. BUT, he also has thrown those GREAT passes every game. I don't see a comfortable QB in Cousins. Rarely do I see him take a snap and get rid of the ball quickly. He seems to have a hard time reading a defense and anticipating an open receiver. What he does is stay on script of the called play, and when the primary receiver is covered, he has a tough time finding anyone else, and with the poor pass blocking of our OL, that spells doom.

I believe the success of the Vikings totally depends on the offensive play calling, and Cook being able to run the ball. Cousins will only be successful if those two things are working. If they aren't, he is not capable of putting the game on his shoulders and leading this team to a win. I watched the KC/SEA game last night and kept thinking "Wow! How great would the Vikings be if they had Mahomes at QB, or even Wilson?" I know Cousins doesn't the athleticism that they do, and that's ok if he makes up for it in every other aspect. But he doesn't.

If he proves me wrong, and I hope he does, I will send you a case of a beer of your choice.

Posted: **Mon Dec 24, 2018 12:53 pm**

PurpleKoolaid wrote: ↑Mon Dec 24, 2018 2:28 am
VikingLord wrote: ↑Mon Dec 24, 2018 1:29 am

Call me crazy, but I thought Cousins looked hella good in the second half today. They had him rolling out, faking handoffs, moving up... He looked comfortable, confident, and while he missed a few he'd probably like to have back, he looked like the QB everyone hoped he would be when they went out and got him at the start of the year.

Maybe it's just playing loose. Maybe it's just an attitude. I think the offensive line is a problem, but it's not a fatal flaw. And let's face it - every team, even the Saints and the Rams and the Bears, have similar flaws at some level on their team.

I am hoping beyond hope that the Vikings step it up in this upcoming game on offense. I want to see the Cousins we've seen for stretches of games this season where he's dictating things to the defense and making them worry about the mid and deep parts of the field. I think that is when he's at his best by far.
He looked nothing like a billion dollar QB should look like. An elite QB. He missed wide open receivers. Putting on purple shades that tight is fine, but Cousins looked like an average QB should look playing the Lions, who were playing for nothing and gave up the second half.

Don't think I've ever heard anyone call Kirk an elite QB, ever. He is not. He is a top 10 QB in the league. 3 or 4 games a year he is as good as anybody. And he got paid what top 10 QBs in the league get paid. I know its absurd, but that's what they get paid. Shouldn't be hard (since they suck so bad) or expensive to improve the O line. We have the most important position locked up.

Posted: **Mon Dec 24, 2018 1:01 pm**

It was a solid win over a team that on paper this team should beat. The hail Mary was hilarious. I think if they have a game Plan that accounts for Mack in pass protection and stick with the run even when it doesn't work tgey can beat the Bears. They also need to stop the run on defense and make Mitch beat them. It's about that simple.

Posted: **Mon Dec 24, 2018 1:16 pm**

808vikingsfan wrote: ↑Mon Dec 24, 2018 1:09 am
S197 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 24, 2018 12:34 am But the major issue is the offensive line is that bad. If they're not allowing pressure on 3 man rushes, they're killing drives with holding penalties or their inability to get any sort of push in redzone/short yardage situations. The difference between a good and bad O-line in the NFL is probably 5-6 bad plays a game. Again, high degree of parity.
I know I'm a broken record but I think the major issue is Cousins deficiencies. You put Russell Wilson on this team and the OL will look much better, the running game will be more effective, the defense would resemble last year. Wilson would take this team to another level. . Yeah, I got a man crush.

Agree. The problem is players like Wilson are hard to come by. Offensive lineman better than most of our shouldn't be.

Posted: **Mon Dec 24, 2018 1:25 pm**

Cliff wrote: ↑Mon Dec 24, 2018 9:30 am I know a lot of people are complaining about how the offense started and it was pretty terrible. However, I don't see it as a problem. Sometimes when a game starts the plan doesn't work. It's super encouraging to see the offense make adjustments and turn it around. I could complain about Cousins but that's silly at this point. Salary aside Cousins isnt a "great" qb but he's good enough if he doesn't have to carry the team. He performed as expected. Not great, not terrible.

The defense was terrific and held up until the offense finally figured themselves out. Not much else to say. Couldn't have asked for much more out of them.

Next week we'll learn if the improvement in the offense is real or we just played Miami and Detroit (which the 'old' offense beat too). Here's hoping!

Thanks for being a voice of reason.

I keep saying it, and I'll keep on saying it: No team can play perfect football for 60 minutes. The other guys get paid, too. Sure, teams get hot and have great games that seem perfect from beginning to end, but even if that happens, it's the exception. Early in the season, Kansas City and L.A. were considered unbeatable. Now if the Rams somehow lose to S.F., they could lose their first-round bye, and the Chiefs are a Wild-Card team. Philly was left for dead a month ago and lost Carson Wentz -- now they're flying with Foles and challenging us for the final playoff spot. No team can be perfect all the time.

Yesterday as I watched the game, I had absolutely no anxiety, even when we went 3-and-out for most of the first half. I knew Zimmer would adjust, and I had a good feeling that Stefanski would. And they both did. Once they did, the game was OVER. Yes, the Lions were banged up, and our players were better. That's the point. We were the better team, and we won by 18. It wasn't perfect, but it never is.

And I took the advice of many of you ... I stayed off the chat yesterday. Guess what? I enjoyed the game thoroughly. But you know what else? I also missed the chat. But I just couldn't go there. I can only imagine what was being said during the first 25 minutes of play. So I stayed away. I just have no desire on game day to sit and b!tch about my team. It's not that I don't think my team can do any wrong, or that Cousins is the MVP. I just want to cheer my team on, not complain about them. There's plenty of that during the week.

Yes, those of us who choose to stay positive can simply stay off the chat. I just hope you all realize that it means we also have to give up something we enjoy, which is the common experience of cheering for the Vikings with other fans.

I mean no disrespect to anyone. It's just that when I read, "If you don't like it, stay off the board," I find that unfortunate. The board is supposed to be for everyone.

Posted: **Mon Dec 24, 2018 1:41 pm**

This whole thing with staying off of the chat is downright silly.

If you don't like what a person says then don't reply. The personal jabs have got to go.

I don't care if you view someone as positive or negative. You're discussing a football game among fellow fans. Think someone has a bad opinion? Discuss it. If you don't like how they react or think they're dumb STOP RESPONDING. You know, like in real life.

It would help if some of us didn't have "internet balls". I'd bet $10,000 that not a single person on this board is walking up to someone and calling them an idiot (or whatever) in a bar during a game regardless of their opinion on Zimmer and Cousins.

Posted: **Mon Dec 24, 2018 1:57 pm**

Fat Stupid Loser wrote: ↑Mon Dec 24, 2018 12:53 pm
PurpleKoolaid wrote: ↑Mon Dec 24, 2018 2:28 am

He looked nothing like a billion dollar QB should look like. An elite QB. He missed wide open receivers. Putting on purple shades that tight is fine, but Cousins looked like an average QB should look playing the Lions, who were playing for nothing and gave up the second half.
Don't think I've ever heard anyone call Kirk an elite QB, ever. He is not. He is a top 10 QB in the league. 3 or 4 games a year he is as good as anybody. And he got paid what top 10 QBs in the league get paid. I know its absurd, but that's what they get paid. Shouldn't be hard (since they suck so bad) or expensive to improve the O line. We have the most important position locked up.

Good post. I followed Cousins at MSU and every game as a redskin and Viking only because I’m from Michigan and have admired him as a player and a solid character giver off the field. I followed ES, especially you, SIP, VOR, go skins, Cooley and many others who have a good feel for the game and respond to his performances with reasoned measured responses, favorable or unfavorable. Having said all that, a big contract comes with high expectations and I would guess he feels the weight of wanting to win as much as anyone on this board. He’s won some big games in his short career as a starter that he wasn’t supposed to win. But his prime time games are what people remember and the negative narrative is constant with broadcasters in almost every game, regardless of how well he does when the Vikings win.
It is what it is. From where I sit, he has taken some violent hits over his career and is extremely durable. He has the heart of a lion. Does he make mistakes.....sure. But if you line him up against the qb’s making in the range of $25m or more a year right now, he looks good in comparison to most. This is a work in progress and the leash is short in the eyes of the fans who want to win now. Understandable. I think he can deliver. He has a defense here that he’s never had up to this point. He had one WR in Washington who could get separation and that was Desean Jackson. Look how his numbers dropped off after he was traded. Same with Garçon. I submit to you that Cousins in large part was responsible for getting them record contracts when the skins wouldn’t shell out the money to resign them. I like our team. We have a lot of talent and hopefully can beat the bears at home. Confident the offensive line will be fixed in the off season. Like I said in another thread, be thankful you are not lion fans. We have had a dumpster fire for 60 years and no hope in the future. btw, US bank stadium is beautiful. What a first class organization.

Posted: **Mon Dec 24, 2018 2:11 pm**

PurpleMustReign wrote: ↑Mon Dec 24, 2018 12:00 pm
Pondering Her Percy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 24, 2018 8:39 am

Win or lose, this board is more than exhausting. Last week we win, but then we hear “Miami is banged up, they aren’t any good, coming off an emotional win, etc”. This week we win, “well the offense sucked early on, Cousins can’t move, Cousins holds the ball too long, etc”. And when we lose?! Lookout. This has hands down been the most depressing year on this board. All because we didn’t repeat last years success, which is hard to do regardless (look at the Vikings, jags and eagles this year).

I’m pulling myself from the chat once again. And I’m doing it for the rest of the year. The last two weeks have been HANDS DOWN, the worst two weeks in that chat room all year. And the sad thing is, the Vikings won both games....by a mile. If our QB throws one ball in the dirt, it’s talked about all game. 21 for 28, 253 and 3 tds no turnovers, we win by 18 and he still gets ripped on. The poor guy cant win. No I don’t think he’s god, no I don’t think he’s Tom Brady, but the guy is still good. And sorry, a guy that has that kind of game, shouldn’t be getting crucified in a chat room. This board has turned into negative land. And those fans know exactly who they are. The same ones every week. Kirk throws one ball in the dirt and you have to read the sarcastic “NICE THROW KIRK” every freaking time...like why? I swear that was said on all 7 incompletions. Guys didn’t even do that with Ponder. It brings nothing to the chat. Or if he takes a sack (god forbid), we hear “THROW THE BALL” or “NICE MOBILTY”. Not just once, EVERY TIME he takes a sack. Does he have bad throws? Yeah like every QB. Does he hold the ball too long here and there? Yeah like every QB. But these are said on EVERY incompletion or sack. Like grow up. If you’re a cousins hater, so be it, but the ones on here take it to a WHOLE new level. Kirk has a good game and the Vikings win? Ok let’s run to excuse land to complain about why it wasn’t good enough. It’s nothing but a di** measuring contest every week. Never has this board been like this. I’m ready to be done for good sooner than later
If the chats bother you so damn much why do you keep coming back. It's beyond annoying to hear how awful the fans are and how you are going to eb the bigger person and everyone's hero and leave the chat, only for you to come back 30nseconds later and argue with people who beg you to foe them. Why haven't you foed people who piss you off?
If you don't like the negativity, DON'T JOIN THE CHAT. I don't understand why it's so hard.

I bailed on it once and came back and gave it another shot. It’s not how awful the fans are. It’s comes down to a couple at most. But those couple make the chat unenjoyable. That’s what you don’t see. I’m not sure how many times you and PK need to get called out and basically told enough is enough and you continue to do it. We wanna go in there and enjoy it and talk the game. Especially when we’re winning like we’ve done the past two weeks and you two negative nancies come in constantly complaining about 7 incomplete passes and 2 sacks taken when we end up winning by 18 points. I don’t need you to direct me what I should and shouldn’t do. I’m pulling out of the chat because I get sick of reading it. Thought maybe it would calm down when we’re winning which is why I came back on but it’s actually worse somehow with you two. I don’t get it. I know I can go with the not responding route but it’s still all there to read. And yeah I can foe whoever but for the 10th time, it doesn’t block out the posts. The chat has turned into a bit** fest that’s practically cousins haters vs cousins non-haters. No matter what we do as a team. I’m done reading it.

Posted: **Mon Dec 24, 2018 2:29 pm**

We're done talking about the chat and who is going to read it or not.

If you don't like it, don't participate.

The bottom line is keep it to football. Don't like the fact someone hates Cousins? Argue their points. Think someone is wrong in their defense of him? Argue their points. If you get tired of arguing with a person STOP DOING IT.

In the end NEITHER OPINION ACTUALLY MATTERS. It's fun to discuss but Zimmer isn't getting fired or not because a few users on a message board think so.

Stop taking yourselves so seriously already.

Posted: **Mon Dec 24, 2018 2:39 pm**

J. Kapp 11 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 24, 2018 1:25 pm
Cliff wrote: ↑Mon Dec 24, 2018 9:30 am I know a lot of people are complaining about how the offense started and it was pretty terrible. However, I don't see it as a problem. Sometimes when a game starts the plan doesn't work. It's super encouraging to see the offense make adjustments and turn it around. I could complain about Cousins but that's silly at this point. Salary aside Cousins isnt a "great" qb but he's good enough if he doesn't have to carry the team. He performed as expected. Not great, not terrible.

The defense was terrific and held up until the offense finally figured themselves out. Not much else to say. Couldn't have asked for much more out of them.

Next week we'll learn if the improvement in the offense is real or we just played Miami and Detroit (which the 'old' offense beat too). Here's hoping!
Thanks for being a voice of reason.

I keep saying it, and I'll keep on saying it: No team can play perfect football for 60 minutes. The other guys get paid, too. Sure, teams get hot and have great games that seem perfect from beginning to end, but even if that happens, it's the exception. Early in the season, Kansas City and L.A. were considered unbeatable. Now if the Rams somehow lose to S.F., they could lose their first-round bye, and the Chiefs are a Wild-Card team. Philly was left for dead a month ago and lost Carson Wentz -- now they're flying with Foles and challenging us for the final playoff spot. No team can be perfect all the time.

Yesterday as I watched the game, I had absolutely no anxiety, even when we went 3-and-out for most of the first half. I knew Zimmer would adjust, and I had a good feeling that Stefanski would. And they both did. Once they did, the game was OVER. Yes, the Lions were banged up, and our players were better. That's the point. We were the better team, and we won by 18. It wasn't perfect, but it never is.

And I took the advice of many of you ... I stayed off the chat yesterday. Guess what? I enjoyed the game thoroughly. But you know what else? I also missed the chat. But I just couldn't go there. I can only imagine what was being said during the first 25 minutes of play. So I stayed away. I just have no desire on game day to sit and b!tch about my team. It's not that I don't think my team can do any wrong, or that Cousins is the MVP. I just want to cheer my team on, not complain about them. There's plenty of that during the week.

Yes, those of us who choose to stay positive can simply stay off the chat. I just hope you all realize that it means we also have to give up something we enjoy, which is the common experience of cheering for the Vikings with other fans.

I mean no disrespect to anyone. It's just that when I read, "If you don't like it, stay off the board," I find that unfortunate. The board is supposed to be for everyone.

Great posts from both of you. Mike, I hope you stay on. The basis for all posts are that everyone, at heart, wants to win. Fans form opinions and see things through their own lens. Opinions seemingly posted as personal attacks can put your digestive system in a spin cycle if you let them. I disagree with some of the posts and how they seem to attack rather than measured responses. But, I’ve learned through the years to look at the 98 percent who share the same feelings as I do regardless of how far apart we are on one topic or one player. Some people are more emotional when they post. Took me a few years to get there. I hope you can. You have a lot to contribute. But, you know yourself and what’s best for you. Merry Christmas to all.

Posted: **Mon Dec 24, 2018 3:04 pm**

J. Kapp 11 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 24, 2018 1:25 pm Thanks for being a voice of reason.

I keep saying it, and I'll keep on saying it: No team can play perfect football for 60 minutes. The other guys get paid, too. Sure, teams get hot and have great games that seem perfect from beginning to end, but even if that happens, it's the exception. Early in the season, Kansas City and L.A. were considered unbeatable. Now if the Rams somehow lose to S.F., they could lose their first-round bye, and the Chiefs are a Wild-Card team. Philly was left for dead a month ago and lost Carson Wentz -- now they're flying with Foles and challenging us for the final playoff spot. No team can be perfect all the time.

No team can be perfect all the time but expressing frustration about a performance in which the Vikings offense gained a grand total of 5 yards and 0 first downs on their first 4 possessions and didn't pick up a first down until there were less than 4 minutes remaining in the first half is hardly a demand for 60 minutes of "perfect football". Those first 25 minutes or so of the game weren't just imperfect football from the Vikes offense, they were lousy. To their credit, they were able to get the offense going after that and come away with a decisive win but a start like that can reasonably be viewed as problematic. I'm sure the players and coaches expect better of themselves. It's not unreasonable to expect the offense to pick up a first down before the 4 minute mark of the first half!

Posted: **Mon Dec 24, 2018 3:08 pm**

Mothman wrote: ↑Mon Dec 24, 2018 3:04 pm
J. Kapp 11 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 24, 2018 1:25 pm Thanks for being a voice of reason.

I keep saying it, and I'll keep on saying it: No team can play perfect football for 60 minutes. The other guys get paid, too. Sure, teams get hot and have great games that seem perfect from beginning to end, but even if that happens, it's the exception. Early in the season, Kansas City and L.A. were considered unbeatable. Now if the Rams somehow lose to S.F., they could lose their first-round bye, and the Chiefs are a Wild-Card team. Philly was left for dead a month ago and lost Carson Wentz -- now they're flying with Foles and challenging us for the final playoff spot. No team can be perfect all the time.
No team can be perfect all the time but expressing frustration about a performance in which the Vikings offense gained a grand total of 5 yards and 0 first downs on their first 4 possessions and didn't pick up a first down until there were less than 4 minutes remaining in the first half is hardly a demand for 60 minutes of "perfect football". Those first 25 minutes or so of the game weren't just imperfect football from the Vikes offense, they were lousy. To their credit, they were able to get the offense going after that and come away with a decisive win but a start like that can reasonably be viewed as problematic. I'm sure the players and coaches expect better of themselves. It's not unreasonable to expect the offense to pick up a first down before the 4 minute mark of the first half!

I agree jim. With yhat said, I was impressed with the adjustments the offense made. I get that Detroit defense was banged up but the Vikings went from dormant to fierce in a flio of a switch. With JDF that wasn't gge case at all.

Posted: **Mon Dec 24, 2018 5:34 pm**

808vikingsfan wrote: ↑Mon Dec 24, 2018 1:09 am
S197 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 24, 2018 12:34 am But the major issue is the offensive line is that bad. If they're not allowing pressure on 3 man rushes, they're killing drives with holding penalties or their inability to get any sort of push in redzone/short yardage situations. The difference between a good and bad O-line in the NFL is probably 5-6 bad plays a game. Again, high degree of parity.
I know I'm a broken record but I think the major issue is Cousins deficiencies. You put Russell Wilson on this team and the OL will look much better, the running game will be more effective, the defense would resemble last year. Wilson would take this team to another level. . Yeah, I got a man crush.

Wilson is arguably a top 3 QB in the NFC, top 5 for sure. It's a travesty he got snubbed for Rodgers. He would certainly elevate the offense but a Wilson would never be available on the market. Even a guy like Cousins (top 10-15) is a rare occurrence.

So the Vikings had to overpay to get a decent QB. That's just the way it is. The problem was Rick's inability to realize Cousins would need help and can't work with a patchwork line.

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