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Re: what QB should we draft at #8 assuming ALL are available

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 4:59 pm
by J. Kapp 11
saint33 wrote:
what exactly makes you think Bridgewater looks like Geno Smith :|

Outside of the color of their skin, I see very few similarities.
You're right about that.

Geno has a stronger arm.

Re: what QB should we draft at #8 assuming ALL are available

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:01 pm
by Anderson22
I just don't see teddy being a great nfl qb, I see him having similar careers like a Shaun king or koredel Stewart, I hate saying this but if we draft teddy it's gonna be very long 3-4 years, geno and teddy are very similar qbs, both had very good college careers that will end there. I do think mettenburger is a much better pocket passer with a lot better arm and garopollo has better touch and has a quicker release, both jimmy and zach would fit norvs offense better that anyone else in the draft.

Re: what QB should we draft at #8 assuming ALL are available

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:10 pm
by jackal
I picked none but I am Bortles will be the best long term

Re: what QB should we draft at #8 assuming ALL are available

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:50 pm
by PurpleKoolaid
Its how funny how Bortles came out of nowhere, from maybe a 3rd round, to maybe the first QB pick. I cant wait till this draft is over.

Re: what QB should we draft at #8 assuming ALL are available

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:54 pm
by Mothman
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_ ... rs-pro-day
Once its immediacy fades, the effect of Teddy Bridgewater's underwhelming performance at his pro day will likely just be one metric of the Louisville quarterback's pre-draft evaluation, not the single factor that will send his draft stock careening all over the board.

Bridgewater has a splendid college resume, was seen as one of the more NFL-ready quarterbacks in this draft class and will still possess plenty of interest for teams who need a quarterback, none of which are about to blackball Bridgewater because he displayed accuracy issues while throwing without a glove and raised questions about his arm strength.

While we're going to guess the Minnesota Vikings would still consider Bridgewater seriously if he falls to them at No. 8 (NFL.com's Gil Brandt said Vikings offensive coordinator Norv Turner thought Bridgewater looked fine), the subpar performance does re-introduce a question Vikings GM Rick Spielman was asking at the NFL scouting combine: Why wouldn't quarterbacks give themselves another chance to throw in front of scouts?
More at the link plus a post-Pro Day workout interview with Bridgewater...

Re: what QB should we draft at #8 assuming ALL are available

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:56 pm
by saint33
Anderson22 wrote:I just don't see teddy being a great nfl qb, I see him having similar careers like a Shaun king or koredel Stewart, I hate saying this but if we draft teddy it's gonna be very long 3-4 years, geno and teddy are very similar qbs, both had very good college careers that will end there. I do think mettenburger is a much better pocket passer with a lot better arm and garopollo has better touch and has a quicker release, both jimmy and zach would fit norvs offense better that anyone else in the draft.

Kordel Stewart now? Geno and Stewart are both QBs who are inaccurate, running QBs with big arms. Teddy is not that at all. He is a pocket passer who rarely runs, is very accurate and very smart.

I don't want to accuse you of something, but based on your comparisons you seem to think every black QB is a run-first, poor accuracy type guy. But Teddy Bridgewater couldn't be further from that. Teddy is more comparable to AJ McCarron than he is Geno Smith

Re: what QB should we draft at #8 assuming ALL are available

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:57 pm
by losperros
Mothman wrote:http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_ ... rs-pro-day
More at the link plus a post-Pro Day workout interview with Bridgewater...
I'm not worried about Bridgewater's pro day performance. His performances on the field have been sharp.

As with Manziel, I won't complain if the Vikings pick Bridgewater at #8.

Re: what QB should we draft at #8 assuming ALL are available

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:59 pm
by saint33
J. Kapp 11 wrote: You're right about that.

Geno has a stronger arm.
So does JaMarcus Russell. I'm not worried about Teddy's arm strength.

Re: what QB should we draft at #8 assuming ALL are available

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:46 pm
by Purple bruise
Please do not draft this guy :wallbang: Too great of a gamble!!!

If he is there at eight trade down and secure a good LB or cornerback!!

Re: what QB should we draft at #8 assuming ALL are available

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 12:17 am
by Funkytown
Purple bruise wrote:Please do not draft this guy :wallbang: http://www.freeslots.com/Slot517.htm

If he is there at eight trade down and secure a good LB or cornerback!!
What guy? Who is on freeslots.com?

Re: what QB should we draft at #8 assuming ALL are available

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 12:29 am
by Purple bruise
Funkytown wrote: What guy? Who is on freeslots.com?
It's a "gamble" to take Teddy :nono:

Re: what QB should we draft at #8 assuming ALL are available

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:15 am
by saint33
Purple bruise wrote: It's a "gamble" to take Teddy :nono:

It's a "gamble" to take anyone. Teddy is no more a gamble than taking CJ Mosley or Justin Gilbert. But as far as QBs go, Teddy Bridgewater is smallest gamble in the draft.

Re: what QB should we draft at #8 assuming ALL are available

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:58 am
by saint33
An interesting thought just popped into my head.

Lets just say at least 2 of the top 3 QBs are available when we pick. Say we like them both. Behind us there isn't a team likely to take a QB until maybe Arizona at 20. So what would people think of instead of trading back and taking a Mosley or Dennard, why wouldn't we trade back to the 12-16ish range, and taking one of the QBs that falls to us.

The value of the QBs would be a lot better in that range. With 2 QBs on the board at 8 and no one really threatening us to take one for awhile after, we would basically be guaranteeing that we get one of them. Even if we move back to 15 and say Arizona or Cleveland jumps ahead of us to grab one, we could still take the other one. Arizona isn't all that desperate for a 1st round QB, so I doubt they'd move up in the draft for one, and other than Cleveland, no team in the first round needs one, meaning that it'd basically be a lock that two teams could jump ahead of us and take both. And even then in that unlikely scenario, that'll push a player like Mosley or Dennard down to us anyways.

Not a bad idea if you ask me. I would be pumped if we came away from the 1st round with Bridgewater and extra picks, I don't see how anyone could complain about that.

Re: what QB should we draft at #8 assuming ALL are available

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 2:02 am
by Eli
Anyone who doesn't think Bridgewater is going to be a complete bust, you mean.

Re: what QB should we draft at #8 assuming ALL are available

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 2:04 am
by saint33
Eli wrote:Anyone who doesn't think Bridgewater is going to be a complete bust, you mean.

Anyone who thinks Bridgewater will be a complete bust is stupid :wink: