Packers get hosed LMAO!

[Hunter Morrow]

What about the 2010 Monday Night Football game where the VIKINGS were the recipients of 3 touchdowns being overturned? Childress criticized the officiating, saying it was the single worst officiated game he had been a part of in any capacity and called the refs inferior to "50 drunks in a bar."

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=63&f=1554&t=9403297&p=1

Yeah, thanks a whole bunch, sugarlumpkins, for the apology, but you gave Green Bay an undeserved touchdown and took 3 of them away from the Vikings.

How many times has the league completely shafted us against a darling team like the Packers and said "Gee, sorry 'bout your damn luck" afterwards?

[Knoxx]

I've even seen one talking head say that the ref who ruled it a TD was right by the letter of the rule. He felt it was a bogus rule and the ref didn't know it. I don't know how he can claim that without talking to the ref. Too many emotions are involved trying to override the rules.

Again I'll say this is all on Jennings, this was the last play of the game he should have knocked the ball away rather than letting a Seahawk make a play on the ball.

[Hunter Morrow]

I can't have any sympathy for the packers. In my lifetime the referees might as well have worn green and gold uniforms during every Sunday Night and Monday Night game the Vikings played against the Packers. They got a Fixed League, Organized Crime, Prime Time 150 Million Dollar Deep Dicking and it couldn't have happened to a better pack of golden childs and league favorites.

How's it feel, Packers? You don't like it when the refs are packing your fudge but it is nothing less than what you deserve. You're gonna be walking bowlegged and crappin' pancakes after this game, huh? Doesn't feel too good, right?

Welcome to our world!

[Cliff]

Is this a joke post? you do realize the bad calls have gone in the Packers favor 99% of the time for at least 3 years right? That's why Packer fans are so outraged because they've never had a call work against them!

I don't know that anybody has actual proof of that.

I would really like to see a reference for bad and/or questionable ref calls from previous years and compare it to this year. A breakdown by team would be nice too.

[indianation65]

I don't like GB, but they actually won that game...I'm not crying though! Every team gets hosed, replacements or not!

...wisdom

[Raptorman]

You're joking right? name one bad call from 30 years ago. 20 years? 10 years? 5 years? 1? bad calls are forgotten. The Seahawks were raped by the refs in the 2005 Super Bowl and most people forgot that and that was the Super Bowl! The Vikings were screwed by the refs in our Saints game in 2009, and most everyone forgot about that, and evidently you did too since you see this Packer game as more of a robbery. And even 2 weeks ago the Packers were given a return TD from Randall Cobb despite a full-on illegal block in the back in full HD view of the camera. And everyone forgot about that. Or how about that TD that was taken away from us by Shiancoe in Lambeau in 2010? People forgot about that and I can barely remember the circumstnace.

our Saints screwing was so clearcut the NFL apologized for it later and pointed out that hi-lo hit on Favre that resulted in a broken ankle, interception, and prevention of a FG or TD was a flag that should have been thrown. This was CLEAR CUT. This Packers final play still has people interpreting it as the right call. Sure we all have feelings that they were screwed but it wasn't clear cut because it was a unique situation.

the point is, all bad ref calls get forgotten, even by the team that was victimized by it. Bad calls are a part of this game and one regular season game in Week 3 isn't going to stand out. You're overreacting.

How about a non call. Drew Person pushed off.

[Raptorman]

Bad Call. Many during the game.

FWIW. If the playoffs started tomorrow, the Vikings would be the 5th seed, the Niners the 6th and the Packers would be out.

[Knoxx]

Raptorman that's the first thing that I thought of also. When you see it and it's against your team it stays with you for life.

[Hunter Morrow]

Oh yeah. This game was clearly influenced but here are some important stats to consider...

Minnesota Vikings offensive line held one of the premier defenses in the league, San Francisco 49ers, to only 2 hits and 0 sacks on Christian Ponder.

We all saw the Cheeseheads have a Swiss cheese line last night. I think it was 5 hits and 9 sacks. 9!

[Knoxx]

Well I live in Wisconsin and had a 8:00 am doctors appointment this morning. The 5 minutes I was in the waiting room I thought I was at the Vet with how many Packer fans were foaming at the mouth talking about last nights game. I sat quietly wearing my Viking hat and got rushed into a room quickly probably for my own protection .

[Cliff]

Considering how we don't get paid to post on this site I'm not going to research this for you, but off the top of my head, the 49er game in Week 1, the Giants playoff game, the Giants regular season game in 2011, the Vikings in Lambeau in 2010, and mind you these are just the games that I've seen since I dont' watch the Packer games anymore. I mean surely you've noticed over time how certain teams and players get better calls than others right? Steelers? Peyton? Cowboys in the 90's? Aaron Rodgers' Packers? Pre-2011 Saints? Maybe you're not paying attention to that sort of stuff? Unfortunately I notice that stuff TOO much

I've actually already done some research and haven't been able to find sources.

I've noticed calls go against teams in both directions. I have noticed games where one team seems to be getting better calls than others but I honestly don't watch enough teams outside of the Vikings to know.

Regardless, without any numbers to back up your claims it's just an opinion of yours. I'm not saying you're wrong ... it's just impossible to know if you are or not.

[Knoxx]

Cliff we also can't turn a blind eye to the NBA were the one ref came out and admitted that the league pressured refs to make favorable calls for more popular teams. If it can happen in the NBA it can happen in the NFL. I have no proof but it is a theory.

[Hunter Morrow]

Not only did he cop to it, he officially admitted guilt in rigging and points shaving multiple regular season and playoffs games. He played a part in playoffs game fixing and forging game 6s and 7s and said that refs he worked with boasted of being Stern's "hitmen" and prolonging playoffs. Donaghy, along with others, was federally indicted and served a year in prison.

Why can't this happen to the NFL? Because the NFL is "special?"

[Mothman]

There are a few important points to make about this

1. if this happened to the Vikings ABSOLUTELY NO ONE would care. Remember this Viking fans if you're feeling sympathy for the Packers.

I'll remember it but I don't believe it. The final play of last night's game would be a big story no matter which two teams were involved.

3. When the Seahawks were robbed in the SB against the Steelers in at least 3 MAJOR calls, Matt Hasselbeck was the first one to say how it was irrelevant because they still should've done more to win that game. I don't agree, but that's a more mature and classy position to take as opposed to the cry baby head coach and QB of the Packers, which is not going to be good mentally for the Packers for the rest of the season.

What did McCarthy do that makse him a crybaby? In his post-game press conference, all he did was say he wasn't going to discuss the officiating.

4. The Packers are 2-4 since being 13-0 and losing to the Chiefs in December. They are clearly not the same team they once were, and the more they focus on "being screwed" and not the fact that their offense is so limp and lifeless, the more games they will lose.

I hope you're right about that!

[Cliff]

Cliff we also can't turn a blind eye to the NBA were the one ref came out and admitted that the league pressured refs to make favorable calls for more popular teams. If it can happen in the NBA it can happen in the NFL. I have no proof but it is a theory.

Again ... I'm not saying anybody is wrong. Of course as a fan I would rather it not be true but I understand life doesn't always work out that way.

My only point is that you need hard evidence. It might seem obvious to you, but ever tried convincing a Packers fan that they get better calls on a regular basis? There has to be some kind of "bad call" tracking in place to prove what you're saying.

I would also like to see the number of "bad/questionable" overall calls last year as opposed to this year to give an indication of if the replacement refs are really doing worse or if now that fans are paying closer attention they're seeing all the cracks in calling games that already existed.