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Re: Lions-Packers TNF

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 1:08 am
by TSonn
Jordysghost wrote:Tsonn, I didn't want to mess with mad qoutes but having a hand inside the helmet pushing a facemask constitutes a turn of the facemask. And the rulebook DOES mention 'pushing'.
Grasp AND push. Not just push.

Re: Lions-Packers TNF

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 1:08 am
by Skoltastic_Voyage
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Re: Lions-Packers TNF

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 1:09 am
by saint33
well so far I have seen everyone but packer fans say there was no facemask. Columists, commenters on different articles, posters on here. You're basically alone on this one, should tell you enough of what you need to know. Your bias is showing

if that is a blatant grasp or hook, I don't see it. And even if it were, it clearly states in the rule book that if the facemask is grasped, it must be released immediately. I don't see how you could even conceive the argument that it was not immediately released

Re: Lions-Packers TNF

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 1:09 am
by me4get
Jordysghost wrote:Tsonn, I didn't want to mess with mad qoutes but having a hand inside the helmet pushing a facemask constitutes a turn of the facemask. And the rulebook DOES mention 'pushing'.
Rulebook also requires grasping AND control, turn, twist, or pull. There was no grasp, so the others have no value in any argument.

Re: Lions-Packers TNF

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 1:12 am
by Jordysghost
me4get wrote:Rulebook also requires grasping AND control, turn, twist, or pull.
His thumb catches the side of his facebar and causes his head to jerk right.

Re: Lions-Packers TNF

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 1:13 am
by saint33
“No player shall grasp AND control, twist, turn, push, or pull the facemask of an opponent in any direction"

in case you didn't see it the first time. And then this


"If a player grasps an opponent’s facemask, he must immediately release it. If he does not immediately release it and controls his opponent, it is a foul."

Re: Lions-Packers TNF

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 1:13 am
by Skoltastic_Voyage
and if you scroll back to my first post right after the face mask I called bs on it the second they called it. I was watching in HD and that didn't even look it to me in #### normal speed.

Re: Lions-Packers TNF

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 1:15 am
by me4get
Jordysghost wrote: His thumb catches the side of his facebar and causes his head to jerk right.
no grasp no foul!!! Pushing is against the flow of the play. Rodgers head went with the flow of the play.

Re: Lions-Packers TNF

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 1:15 am
by TSonn
Jordy is not really grasping what a grasp is. Too easy?

Re: Lions-Packers TNF

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 1:16 am
by Jordysghost
I've already betrayed my own word by continuing in this thread, If you wish to further discuss this a more appropriate thread would suffice.

Great win GB. :D

Re: Lions-Packers TNF

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 1:17 am
by me4get
TSonn wrote:Jordy is not really grasping what a grasp is. Too easy?
Yep,grasping is required by the rule. None seen.

Re: Lions-Packers TNF

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 1:17 am
by Jordysghost
me4get wrote: no grasp no foul!!! Pushing is against the flow of the play. Rodgers head went with the flow of the play.
I was disputing that there was no hook, and also that Rodgers head wasn't forced that way. But again, not this thread for me.

Re: Lions-Packers TNF

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 1:18 am
by Funkytown
Skoltastic_Voyage wrote:and if you scroll back to my first post right after the face mask I called bs on it the second they called it. I was watching in HD and that didn't even look it to me in #### normal speed.
Same here. Looked like he grabbed near his shoulder/shoulder pad and ripped him down. The replay just confirmed it.

Re: Lions-Packers TNF

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 1:18 am
by Jordysghost
me4get wrote: Yep,grasping is required by the rule. None seen.
Looked like his right thumb caught on the side of his facebar prior to the push.

Re: Lions-Packers TNF

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 1:19 am
by Skoltastic_Voyage
I don't see why you guys are arguing honestly who gives a ####. Not going to change a #### thing. #### stupid #### zebras and their tiny #### heads shoved up a discount double ####.