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VikingPaul73 wrote: And by the way, the Chili era was the only playoff win we've had in the last decade!!!! It's funny that the most success the Vikings have had in Rick's entire tenure is the period that Rick supporters always try to "blame" on the fact that he didn't have total GM power during this time. Weird. It's like the perception of a "good" roster with "excellent" depth is more important than the REALITY of results and an actual playoff win! It's baffling to me

1. Rick's tenure of a decade - 1 playoff win
2. Rick's GM tenure of 4 years - 0 playoff wins

there is always a lot of hype and potential.....and then a lot of excuses when things don't work out (as if no other teams in the NFL have injuries). Some teams are just better prepared for the injuries.

VikingPaul73 wrote: And by the way, the Chili era was the only playoff win we've had in the last decade!!!! It's funny that the most success the Vikings have had in Rick's entire tenure is the period that Rick supporters always try to "blame" on the fact that he didn't have total GM power during this time. Weird. It's like the perception of a "good" roster with "excellent" depth is more important than the REALITY of results and an actual playoff win! It's baffling to me

1. Rick's tenure of a decade - 1 playoff win
2. Rick's GM tenure of 4 years - 0 playoff wins

there is always a lot of hype and potential.....and then a lot of excuses when things don't work out (as if no other teams in the NFL have injuries). Some teams are just better prepared for the injuries.

VikingPaul73 wrote:the hubris of the 3rd round trade this year speaks volumes to me. Basically, Vikings' brass said "this team is so talented and deep this year, that we have the luxury of shelving a 3rd rounder until next year, when a couple of older guys will retire"

seriously????? There were gaping holes in OL and backup QB that could have been addressed (at least ATTEMPTED) with a 3rd round pick this year.

Mothman wrote:
That hubris isn't new either. I can appreciate Spielman's desire to accumulate draft picks and make draft day trades but sometimes, I think he's too in love with wheeling and dealing for his own good. His judgment is questionable. The trade you mentioned is an example and the trade for Patterson might be the ultimate example. Spielman sent picks No. 52, No. 83, No. 102, and No. 229 to NE to draft Patterson, a raw-but-very-talented player in need of development. When you consider the state of the team at the at the time, that was an incredible roll of the dice... and it sure doesn't look like it's going to pay off.

VikingPaul73 wrote:That's an excellent, excellent point. Maybe his true calling is a trader in pits of the New York Stock Exchange!!

All-Pro guard Josh Sitton will be released if the Packers are unable to trade him, per a source.

PFF had (ex?) #Packers OG Josh Sitton as a Top-5 guard in 2015, top 3 in pass blocking. Sitton turned 30 in June.

Funkytown wrote:Not us, but an interesting developing story:

Mothman wrote:
That hubris isn't new either. I can appreciate Spielman's desire to accumulate draft picks and make draft day trades but sometimes, I think he's too in love with wheeling and dealing for his own good. His judgment is questionable. The trade you mentioned is an example and the trade for Patterson might be the ultimate example. Spielman sent picks No. 52, No. 83, No. 102, and No. 229 to NE to draft Patterson, a raw-but-very-talented player in need of development. When you consider the state of the team at the at the time, that was an incredible roll of the dice... and it sure doesn't look like it's going to pay off.

S197 wrote: Patterson doesn't look like it will be a good trade unless things turn around but I think Spielman has had more good trades than bad. The trade up for Harrison probably being the best. Let's not forget Jared Allen who was one slip up away from being out of the league at the time. The Harvin trade, the trade back so the Browns could snag Richardson, Bridgewater, etc.

S197 wrote:Remains to be seen but it was a better move than grabbing Manziel or Bridgewater with their first pick. Who knows who would have been around if they waited for their 2nd round pick.