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Re: 2015 Season General Comments (pressers, practice notes,

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 3:10 pm
by dead_poet
@christomasson Mike Zimmer said the Vikings are developing some intensity at the end of football games and being able to finish.
Mike Zimmer: "Adrian ran the ball well downhill. The special teams continue to play well.''
@christomasson Mike Zimmer said Vikings weren't as good as he would have liked in second half.
@christomasson Mike Zimmer says Vikings are "moving in the right direction" in his helm.
@christomasson Mike Zimmer: "If you can stop the run, you have a chance to do some things.''
@christomasson Mike Zimmer said he did some things yesterday that were "out of character" and didn't help the team but wouldn't say what they were.
@christomasson Mike Zimmer said he has been advised not to keep bringing up this motivational stuff that he has but wouldn't say who advised him.
@christomasson Mike Zimmer on Danielle Hunter: "I think he's getting better.''
@christomasson Mike Zimmer on Everson Griffen: "He's becoming a much smarter football player.''
@christomasson Mike Zimmer: "I thought Clemmings did better in the running game, especially.... Fusco probably had his best game.''
YEESH

Re: 2015 Season General Comments (pressers, practice notes,

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 3:19 pm
by Mothman
dead_poet wrote: That's good, although I wish they'd also show a little more urgency. I didn't sense much of it yesterday (but that obviously worked out fine anyway).
Amen to that. I hope they can do it next week! Gurley has looked tremendous so far.
Hmmm...
:lol: He looks like he's really been enjoying it so the advice must be from someone he respects.

Re: 2015 Season General Comments (pressers, practice notes,

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 3:24 pm
by dead_poet
Mothman wrote: :lol: He looks like he's really been enjoying it so the advice must be from someone he respects.
'Ol Billy P?

Re: 2015 Season General Comments (pressers, practice notes,

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 3:27 pm
by dead_poet
Get to the last stage already!
@Andrew_Krammer Zimmer: 4 stages -- learn to compete, learn to win, handle winning + champion. "We're somewhere between learning to win, handling winning"

Re: 2015 Season General Comments (pressers, practice notes,

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 3:29 pm
by Mothman
dead_poet wrote: 'Ol Billy P?

That would be my guess.

Re: 2015 Season General Comments (pressers, practice notes,

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 3:30 pm
by Mothman
dead_poet wrote:Get to the last stage already!
:lol: That would be nice. Right now, I'll settle for satying between stages 2 and 3 without going back to stage 1.

Re: 2015 Season General Comments (pressers, practice notes,

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 7:37 am
by Mothman
Following up on yesterday's tweet:

Winning is only part of Zimmer's success formula for Vikings
Long before their recent roll, Mike Zimmer tried to pass along a lesson to his young Vikings team about finding success, then building upon it.

In his experience, and the coach has a lot of it, he named four stages, or “learns,” as he calls them, to becoming a championship football team.

“1. First you learn how to compete.

“2. Then you learn how to win.

“3. Then you learn how to handle winning.

“4. And then you learn how to be a champion.”

Right now, according to Zimmer, the Vikings still are on step No. 2. But with three consecutive victories and a 5-2 record that has left them within one game of the Green Bay Packers in the NFC North, the Vikings now have their sights on that next step.

Re: 2015 Season General Comments (pressers, practice notes,

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 9:43 am
by fiestavike
Mothman wrote:Following up on yesterday's tweet:

Winning is only part of Zimmer's success formula for Vikings
I think this helps illustrate why some of us have had that positive view of the teams performance in Denver. The team showed the skill and fight to compete on the road against a very good team. They are, I think, learning how to win.

Re: 2015 Season General Comments (pressers, practice notes,

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 11:34 am
by Mothman
fiestavike wrote:I think this helps illustrate why some of us have had that positive view of the teams performance in Denver. The team showed the skill and fight to compete on the road against a very good team. They are, I think, learning how to win.
I think every team out there is either doing likewise or actually winning. I understand there's a process and I understand it's not smooth but that's precisely why I don't put too much stock in a game like that. It's just one game. On any given Sunday...

I think they've shown skill and fight for years. In my view, that's not a new development.

Re: 2015 Season General Comments (pressers, practice notes,

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 2:01 pm
by fiestavike
Mothman wrote:
I think they've shown skill and fight for years. In my view, that's not a new development.
That helps illustrate why we have disagreed on this point :)

Re: 2015 Season General Comments (pressers, practice notes,

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 3:02 pm
by Jordysghost
Mothman wrote: I think every team out there is either doing likewise or actually winning. I understand there's a process and I understand it's not smooth but that's precisely why I don't put too much stock in a game like that. It's just one game. On any given Sunday...

I think they've shown skill and fight for years. In my view, that's not a new development.
Jeesh, tough crowd. You talk as if they aren't a 5-2 football club. :P

Re: 2015 Season General Comments (pressers, practice notes,

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 4:15 pm
by Mothman
fiestavike wrote:That helps illustrate why we have disagreed on this point :)
I guess... :confused:

Jordysghost wrote:Jeesh, tough crowd. You talk as if they aren't a 5-2 football club. :P
:roll: How? I'm just saying I don't look at a single game, in this case b]a loss[/b], and read more into it than what that single game represents. I see it as one performance among many, nothing more. I assume you're not looking at Green Bay's loss to the same team in the same place and seeing it as representative of their season or where they're headed, right?

Re: 2015 Season General Comments (pressers, practice notes,

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 4:24 pm
by fiestavike
Mothman wrote: I guess... :confused:
I think they've been thoroughly incompetent for years in terms of scheme, secondary, tackling, LBs, etc...And of course at the QB position on offense.

Just my opinion, but with the exception of '09 this team would beat any Vikings team of the last 15 years 9 out of 10 times, and even against the 09 team probably wouldn't be worse than a split.

Other than Favre in 09 and the Williams Wall for a spell, I can't think of any aspect in which those teams were notably better.

Obviously we disagree :v):

Re: 2015 Season General Comments (pressers, practice notes,

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 4:36 pm
by Mothman
fiestavike wrote: I think they've been thoroughly incompetent for years in terms of scheme, secondary, tackling, LBs, etc...And of course at the QB position on offense.

Just my opinion, but with the exception of '09 this team would beat any Vikings team of the last 15 years 9 out of 10 times, and even against the 09 team probably wouldn't be worse than a split.

Other than Favre in 09 and the Williams Wall for a spell, I can't think of any aspect in which those teams were notably better.

Obviously we disagree :v):
Obviously. We seem to have a vastly different understanding of what the phrase "thoroughly incompetent" means too. :)

Re: 2015 Season General Comments (pressers, practice notes,

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 4:29 am
by Jordysghost
Mothman wrote: I guess... :confused:

:roll: How? I'm just saying I don't look at a single game, in this case b]a loss[/b], and read more into it than what that single game represents. I see it as one performance among many, nothing more. I assume you're not looking at Green Bay's loss to the same team in the same place and seeing it as representative of their season or where they're headed, right?
Woah Jim, relax, I meant no offense, I apologize if that came of as snarky or something.

I must have misunderstood your comment about other teams 'Actually winning'. I read that and just thought that, the Vikes are 'actually winning' as well.