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TSonn wrote: Yeah you can definitely pause the video and prove there was no finger in the facemask. Also, the media doesn't care about the facemask call because the media loves the Packers. I'm well aware of the bias as I'm a Vikings fan who grew up and lived in WI for 27 years.

Yea im sure you are an unbiased and impartial mediator.

The NFL needs to make all plays reviewable even judgement calls. the ref that threw the flag couldn't even see the contact.

TSonn wrote:Ooo ESPN just said it wasn't a legit facemask.

Carey said it was.

fiestavike wrote:I'm out. There is no point trying to discuss with someone who cannot be remotely objective.

Were on the same page buddy. You were saying this kind of stuff once before though.
Not trying to sound abrasive Fiesta i think you are a great poster but seriously, we might just want to drop this one as far as you and me go.

Jordysghost wrote: Carey said it was.

Carey said it was a good call because the helmet moved. He never said the defender pulled on the mask. He basically said it gave the illusion of a facemask.

TSonn wrote: Carey said it was a good call because the helmet moved. He never said the defender pulled on the mask. He basically said it gave the illusion of a facemask.

I disagree, but im done in this thread.

Wasn't a facemask, brushing the facemask isn't a penalty you need to pull it. I can see how a ref would miss it in real time but anyone looking at it on replay and thinks that's a penalty doesn't know the rule. I guarantee there will be talk about it and it will be said it was a bad call.

TSonn wrote: Carey said it was a good call because the helmet moved. He never said the defender pulled on the mask. He basically said it gave the illusion of a facemask.

That why refs judgement calls are much BS, calling what they think happened, no what actualling happened, Need to review all calls.

Good chat! When I'm not on my tablet I will post a picture of the defender not grabbing the facemask. It will be neat to hear your response, Jordy.

TSonn wrote:Good chat! When I'm not on my tablet I will post a picture of the defender not grabbing the facemask. It will be neat to hear your response, Jordy.

It looked to me like his finger caused the turn to the left, im not saying it was egregious, I never was. I thought it was going to be called when I saw it, just as the uncalled PI on the Lions the play prior.

Jordysghost wrote: Were on the same page buddy. You were saying this kind of stuff once before though.
Not trying to sound abrasive Fiesta i think you are a great poster but seriously, we might just want to drop this one as far as you and me go.

I will pay you to go troll the Lion and Bears boards a gtfo of this one. ok? Im not a huge fan of trolls, and really hate most Packer fan. You qualify as both. That must give you some kind of trip or buzz. I guess Jim or Si82 or Cliff think your arguing here all the time is fine, but Im walking on ice here, and havent a clue why. The good fan/bad fan argument doesnt quit work when I havent mention either, and in fact try and point that crap out when I see it.

S197 wrote:Wasn't a facemask, brushing the facemask isn't a penalty you need to pull it. I can see a ref would miss it in real time but anyone looking at it on replay and thinks that's a penalty doesn't know the rule. I guarantee there will be talk about it and it will be said it was a bad call.

Yep. More of this stuff needs to be reviewable. Too many games being affected by bad officiating near the end.

Jordysghost wrote: Carey said it was.

He also said the no call on Abby was good a well. Yet I hear Packer fans #### about that. The replay clearly shows he got the shoulder pads. I am sure on the field it looked like a face mask to the ref. But it's not reviewable. So the Packer got one. It just happened to change the outcome of the game. The problem comes in down the line if and when the Packers make the playoffs. Does that play change the final outcome of the playoffs for another team? I know, Packer fans don't care.

Tweet from NFL referee Jim Daopoulos

Just looked at that face mask call....there was no grab nor any twist. Just an incorrect call!

Raptorman wrote: He also said the no call on Abby was good a well. Yet I hear Packer fans #### about that. The replay clearly shows he got the shoulder pads. I am sure on the field it looked like a face mask to the ref. But it's not reviewable. So the Packer got one. It just happened to change the outcome of the game. The problem comes in down the line if and when the Packers make the playoffs. Does that play change the final outcome of the playoffs for another team? I know, Packer fans don't care.

Although I believe that was a good call, for the sake of discussion, if it wasn't, I still think the no call on Abbredaris was #### as well, so really, why would I care? The fail mary costed us a first round bye once upon a time regardless.