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Dobbs has been decent in AZ, surprisingly so. This was the guy I had told my brothers I was hoping they would target, but I didn't expect AZ to be open to it. Good trade.JJBreaksRecords wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 1:18 pm Much better (and less expensive) trade than i thought they would get in such a short time. Dobbs should be happy, he has never been on an offense like ours.
Didn't expect him to be available either, with Murray being hurt so much. But Arizona is tanking and would rather play Tune...whoever that is.Texas Vike wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 1:33 pmDobbs has been decent in AZ, surprisingly so. This was the guy I had told my brothers I was hoping they would target, but I didn't expect AZ to be open to it. Good trade.JJBreaksRecords wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 1:18 pm Much better (and less expensive) trade than i thought they would get in such a short time. Dobbs should be happy, he has never been on an offense like ours.
Supposed to be a good QB class coming out of college this year, so if they aren't all snapped up by the time the Vikings draft, I'd think they'd want to draft one of them. They could do both - sign Cousins and draft someone, coming off an achilles at his age, that doesn't seem promising, maybe he can be had for cheap.Angels Wings wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 1:27 pm Wasn't expecting them to go for a big name at QB, so it's not like I'm here furious at the move. Serviceable QB for the team given the unfortunate circumstance of losing Cousins.
Does beg the question of what the team is going to do at QB come the offseason. Do they re-sign. Cousins or do they draft one?
Murray is off IR and supposedly nearly ready to play, that probably made Dobbs expendable. As someone said earlier in this thread, they basically got him for free, really no risk for the Vikings in making the trade. You'd think a starting qb (even lower level) would get more than a swap of draft picks.cmoss84 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 1:39 pm
Didn't expect him to be available either, with Murray being hurt so much. But Arizona is tanking and would rather play Tune...whoever that is.
If he plays decent for the remainder of the year we need to extend him. Starter waiting for a rookie to be ready or backup (waaay better backup than who we have).
Yup this. We simply needed some depth, especially this week with Mullens still on IR. We had Hall and Mannion on PS, that was it. Hall and Dobbs active this weekend I'd guess, with Mannion as third emergency. Think koc has already said they are prepping Hall to start this weekend.Cliff wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 1:31 pmWe literally didn't have a QB behind Hall. They had to bring on somebody.allday1991 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 1:00 pm Do we think this is cause Hall looked bad in practice or is more of a safety measure incase he looks bad Sunday?
Think it is insurance that Mannion doesn’t end up starting.allday1991 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 1:00 pm Do we think this is cause Hall looked bad in practice or is more of a safety measure incase he looks bad Sunday?
Which begs the question why do we continue to give Mannion money and a practice squad spot? Just snap it to the RB at that point.halfgiz wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 2:56 pmThink it is insurance that Mannion doesn’t end up starting.allday1991 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 1:00 pm Do we think this is cause Hall looked bad in practice or is more of a safety measure incase he looks bad Sunday?
Overall not a bad trade. Hall & Dobbs should let KOC change the offense some. Both have similar strengths. Mobile QB’s
Dobbs is going to give them a better chance of making the playoffs...Hall needs some marinating. But point taken.VikingLord wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 4:14 pm Dobbs is a decent veteran journeyman option at QB, especially under these circumstances. I think the Vikings had to make this move because Mullens is on IR. If he weren't they'd be OK putting Mullens in.
I personally hope that Hall gets his shot. Neither Dobbs nor Mullens are the future at QB. Hall probably isn't either but he's young and at least could have a future if he shows he can step up and perform. There is precedent for rookie QBs taking the reigns and doing well when a veteran starter goes down with an injury, and I hope Hall gets the chance to be the next example in that line. Hall has the mobility needed to get the job done. He's got the arm as well. If he can conduct himself with confidence and read the field, he's in a great overall situation with the receivers and supporting cast he has around him. Here's hoping KOC gives him that chance and, with all due respect to Josh Dobbs and Nate Mullens, we never see either of them have to throw a pass as a Viking other than perhaps in garbage time when the Vikes are up by 28 in the 4th.
I thought of Sloter also when Hall looked like a HOFer in a preseason game. Hall doesn't have Webb's all around ability. Webb could do anything but the problem was he wasn't very good at any of them especially QB. Nobody can learn 60% of this complicated offense in a few days. That's like reading war and peace in 5 minutes. He'll know one formation and a running play, check down, a quick hitch, a TE screen and kneel down from that formation.TheCoolerOne wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 8:55 pm O’Connell was on the Rams staff when they had Goff, right?
Wasn’t it a thing where the Rams would get to the line really quickly, before 15 seconds on the play clock (when the radios shut off), so McVay could see the defense and then dictate where Goff should go with the ball?
Supposed softer schedule coming up, maybe we will see that with O’Connell/Hall while they get him acclimated.
Ironically, it was the Vikings who foiled that system, as Zimmer disguised looks until post-snap, but anyway, something to wonder about.
More than likely, I imagine this will be like the Joe Webb experience. Hall will unexpectedly ball out game one, the drum for him will bang louder than Sloter, and he’ll then plummet back to Earth. We’ll be racing to get Dobbs up to speed to operate 60% of the playbook by week 12