5th year options exercised on Floyd,Rhodes, not Patterson

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Re: 5th year options exercised on Floyd,Rhodes, not Patterso

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From the PP's Chris Tomasson ‏:
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Not that it's any surprise but source said #Vikings made decision "months ago" to not pick up Cordarrelle Patterson 5th-year option.
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Cordarrelle Patterson also spent 2nd straight offseason working in San Fran with Hell's Trainer Frank Matrisciano. Said to be in great shape
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Source close to #Vikings WR Cordarrelle Patterson's workouts on the shape he's now in: He has "six-pack abs bordering on eight-pack.”
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Cordarrelle Patterson HS coach Jimmy Wallace on So. Car. workouts: “I heard (were) very intense & he was working extremely hard to improve"
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Not that it's any surprise but source said #Vikings made decision "months ago" to not pick up Cordarrelle Patterson 5th-year option.
To me he always seemed happy just to be there, it doesn't surprise me nor bother me.
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Cordarrelle Patterson also spent 2nd straight offseason working in San Fran with Hell's Trainer Frank Matrisciano. Said to be in great shape
It worked so well last year he did it again. I'm not sure why he thinks being in great shape is the key to running NFL routes.
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Source close to #Vikings WR Cordarrelle Patterson's workouts on the shape he's now in: He has "six-pack abs bordering on eight-pack.”
And eight-pack? Watch out NFL, here comes the mental midget with abs.

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Cordarrelle Patterson HS coach Jimmy Wallace on So. Car. workouts: “I heard (were) very intense & he was working extremely hard to improve"
If the coaching staff believed he had it up stairs to be an NFL wideout they'd still be trying to work with him. Not even an eight-pack can fix stupid.
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SP1966 wrote:If the coaching staff believed he had it up stairs to be an NFL wideout they'd still be trying to work with him. Not even an eight-pack can fix stupid.
I dunno; whenever I've had a eight-pack people always seem to get smarter and have great ideas ("Let's go to ANOTHER BAR!"). Two more and I feel damn-near genius.
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He's not worth as much money as he'd make on the 5th year option. At least, not for the Vikings. He's a great returner, I hope we can find a way to keep him somehow.

I'm willing to bet he's ready to move on from the Vikings even if they aren't 'trying' to move on from him.
The Vikings would have had to pay Patterson $7.9 million in 2017 on his fifth-year option
No team is paying him that either though, I don't think.
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He's not worth as much money as he'd make on the 5th year option. At least, not for the Vikings. He's a great returner, I hope we can find a way to keep him somehow.

I'm willing to bet he's ready to move on from the Vikings even if they aren't 'trying' to move on from him.
Thank you... I hope he does not even make the team this year. IMO players like him will keep us from being
a championship team. Can't even learn a route tree, in four-five years of football (college included)
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jackal wrote: Thank you... I hope he does not even make the team this year. IMO players like him will keep us from being
a championship team. Can't even learn a route tree, in four-five years of football (college included)
To be fair, Patterson CAN run the route tree so we can stop with that misconception. The problem is he hasn't shown the ability to be consistent (beating press, sharp routes to create separation, timing and depth correct depth reliably). That's where he struggles (compared to his peers).
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To be fair, Patterson CAN run the route tree so we can stop with that misconception. The problem is he hasn't shown the ability to be consistent (beating press, sharp routes to create separation, timing and depth correct depth reliably). That's where he struggles (compared to his peers).
No offense but timing, depth correct and separation are all evidence of a good route tree.
I hope he comes out and can play at a pro bowl level. IMO the guy is lazy and a clown.
He could have been an all pro but he has almost no (work ethic).
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jackal wrote: No offense but timing, depth correct and separation are all evidence of a good route tree.
I hope he comes out and can play at a pro bowl level. IMO the guy is lazy and a clown.
He could have been an all pro but he has almost no (work ethic).
You didn't qualify his route-running ability before ("good"). We're closer to agreement now.

There is a lot of evidence to the contrary the last two years about his work ethic. Is it enough? Is it too late? We'll soon see (maybe).
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dead_poet wrote: You didn't qualify his route-running ability before ("good"). We're closer to agreement now.

There is a lot of evidence to the contrary the last two years about his work ethic. Is it enough? Is it too late? We'll soon see (maybe).
He obviously works hard, but I don't know that he's working on the right things. He seems like a very nice and amiable fellow and if there is some chance the light is going to come on I hope the Vikings keep him this year and try to re-sign him after the season. But if he has shown no signs of understanding the position after 3 years, and the Vikings don't believe he ever will, I'd just move on and try to get him onto an AFC team.
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Cordarrelle Patterson is officially on his last chance with the Vikings. Now it's time to see how he responds to it:
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Patterson's best chance to set himself up for long-term financial security would be to show, at long last, he's willing and able to refine his game as a receiver. Even with Treadwell on the roster, there's no one with the high-voltage combination of size and speed that Patterson has. If the receiver finally shows he can master the playbook, detail his routes in a way that keeps defenders guessing and work in tandem with Bridgewater, the Vikings aren't going to keep him off the field out of some deep-seated vendetta. He's too alluring a player for that, and a Vikings offense with Patterson functioning well is exponentially more dangerous than one without him
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dead_poet wrote: http://es.pn/1W6d7ik
I don't think the Vikings would keep Patterson off the field over a deep-seated vendetta either but I find it easy to believe stubborn inflexibility could continue to be the culprit.
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dead_poet wrote: http://es.pn/1W6d7ik
Or are they? Same thing happened with Charles Johnson (even though he had a fractured rib it sounds like for a good chunk of the year). Same thing happened to Robert Blanton (now, I liked Blanton, he wasn't 'great' but he was better than Sandejo). Same thing to extent happened with Josh Robinson.

I don't see this coaching staff giving Cordarrelle a chance. It shouldn't be that hard to get him the ball at least once a game.
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dead_poet wrote: How many times does that happen? From my (albeit flawed) recollection it's exceedingly rare.
I agree with your view, but I think CP has potential to be that rare case for a few reasons:

1.) He has seen virtualy zero offensive snaps since Zimmer/Turner took over. IE the production he has to beat is essentially zero.
2.) He has potential to put up productive numbers for an OC that is content to let him do what he does well and not worry about whether or not he develops beyond that. By productive I mean less than a 1000 yards receiving, but possibly a decent TD number. (6-10 in a season)

I think the main reason CP fails, assuming he fails, will be because Zimmer and Co demand a high level of discipline and professionalism from their players. CP comes off, at least to me, as that guy who thrives more on talent than professionalism and thus is probably not the best fit for the above philosophy. It also might be that he could exhibit the professionalism/ discipline but might require a different management style than we have at winter park. Or he could just be a dud. Overall, I think he has the talent to be more productive that he has been at Winter Park. His rookie season being the primary evidence.
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Mothman wrote: I don't think the Vikings would keep Patterson off the field over a deep-seated vendetta either but I find it easy to believe stubborn inflexibility could continue to be the culprit.
I respect agnosticism, and ultimately we have to be somewhat agnostic over the question of why Patterson isn't getting snaps despite his awesome talent, but it does truly befuddle me that you seem so much more inclined to believe in a claim that nobody has made - not patterson, not the media, not the quarterback (who would benefit from having his best weapons available), to the best of my knowledge, not even Patterson's agent - rather than the statements of Turner, Zimmer, Patterson himself, scouts, and area press. Somehow this notion of the inflexibility of the coaching staff has become an impernitrable barrier, and unanimous evidence to the contrary - unspecific though it may be - is discounted. I respect your doubts about the accuracy of all these statements, and if you were merely agnostic I wouldn't find it hard to understand. I just can't follow the giant leap of faith to get beyond that.
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IrishViking wrote:I think the Raiders would be the ideal landing spot for him.
The more I think about it, the more I agree it should be the Raiders. Musgrave knows how to use Patterson and understands the considerable talent CP has.

mansquatch wrote:This has all the hallmarks of a guy who gets tossed and then becomes a superstar elsewhere. I hope I'm wrong
I hope you're right. If the Vikings aren't interested in his skill set and want an extra roster spot, then it's a win/win dynamic for CP to catch on elsewhere.
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