Vikings heading into next year

[PurpleKoolaid]

so u think robison will stay?

No, not even under Zimmers supposed no sack D will Robinson stay.

[saint33]

wait, do people actually believe Robison is in any danger of being released?

[CbusVikesFan]

Picking at number 11 the Vikings should be able to pick an impact player to plug in immediately. I hope they don't bullocks up the pick with a reach like they did with Barr. I am disappointed when Mosley was right there. I really could care less what Barr does into the future, he is already sucking hind teat as far as I am concerned. I also don't care what the other LB's do on the team, they are not as good as Mosley, if they were, they would be out there making over a 120 tackles for the team. It is my belief that the Vikings D would have been at least 25 percent better with Mosley than with Barr. Mosley finished with 133 tackles, almost 40 tackles more than the leading tackler on the Vikings. It pains me to see this kind of mediocrity go on year after year. If the Vikings need any help this year with the draft, I am available.

[CbusVikesFan]

No, not even under Zimmers supposed no sack D will Robinson stay.

Bye Bye. I never warmed up to Robison anyways. I think we could do better with a Robison fathead out there taking up space.

[frosted]

No, not even under Zimmers supposed no sack D will Robinson stay.

No sack D? With the amount of risks Zim takes calling plays on gameday, I think his defense has a pretty big sack.




In all seriousness, the 'no sack' nonsense is just that, nonsense. The basic premise of that observation was that a bunch of guys in Cincy's defense had a handful of sacks, generally, rather than 1 or 2 getting a ton. That doesn't always wind up being the case though, as we saw this year, with Everson piling up 12, and at times in Cincy, Michael Johnson and Geno Atkins both had double digit sack totals.

[DK Sweets]

I think Greg Jennings really showed value this year. He's not the most dynamic player, but he is a veteran leader on an offense in need of some direction.

I'm a big fan of Patterson, and I really think he's going to improve a lot next year. I have faith in his athletic ability and his desire to be great. Greg is going to help him.

I really think that if Audie Cole can pack on a few pounds, he could be a very solid player in the middle for us. I would feel cautiously optimistic with the trio of Barr, Cole, and Hodges starting for us next year. That said, Cole's greatest asset might be as the perfect relief LB that can play any position.

I think Blanton is solid but unspectacular, and I would be okay with letting Blanton and Exum compete for the SS spot next year. We have bigger needs.

The same goes with Robison. He's not a top level player, but he had been above average for years. We've had success with mid-round DE picks, and I think that would be the wise way to try to fix LE. If Robison starts next year, I won't be thrilled but I won't consider it a hole, either.

With the 11th pick, I think we would get the most value with a WR or CB. Neither position is devoid of talent, but both units could upgrade quickly with a big physical guy owning his side of the field.

With the second round pick, LG seems obvious. I think it's probably the position of most immediate need, but 11th overall might be too soon.

Best player available is my favorite way to go, but if BPA happens to fill WR, CB, LG, or MLB, that's ideal. I don't know what this year's class looks like, but you can typically find very good CBs and MLBs around that spot, and I have absolutely no opposition to trying to make a dominant unit first instead of splitting resources to try to fix both sides of the ball at once. Championship teams usually have one side of the ball that is dominant and one side that capitalizes on the good position. I think Teddy is capable of capitalizing, especially if Peterson returns.

It's gonna be a long 8 months!

[Welsh Vike]

Picking at number 11 the Vikings should be able to pick an impact player to plug in immediately. I hope they don't bullocks up the pick with a reach like they did with Barr. I am disappointed when Mosley was right there. I really could care less what Barr does into the future, he is already sucking hind teat as far as I am concerned. I also don't care what the other LB's do on the team, they are not as good as Mosley, if they were, they would be out there making over a 120 tackles for the team. It is my belief that the Vikings D would have been at least 25 percent better with Mosley than with Barr. Mosley finished with 133 tackles, almost 40 tackles more than the leading tackler on the Vikings. It pains me to see this kind of mediocrity go on year after year. If the Vikings need any help this year with the draft, I am available.

I'm not sure if this is serious or trolling. He was only in the DROY mix before his injury.

[MusicCityViking]

In your opinion, what are the biggest team needs that we should assess in the draft/offseason? IMO, offensive line, defensive line and linebacker are the 3 positions that we need most right now. A running back could be an option as well if we don't plan on keeping Peterson long-term. Having Bridgewater and Melvin Gordon in the backfield could be deadly. Anyway, I'll stop and let you guys contribute your ideas.

[Pondering Her Percy]

Just a suggestion, as a board, we should just make master threads regarding certain things in the offseason. I did this last year during the offseason. We can do a separatedraft thread, free agency, in house moves, etc. We can vote on it as a board if you guys want. It will keep the clutter and repeating topics to a minimum

[Pondering Her Percy]

Thanks man. I'm new to the board so I haven't got a chance to read through all the threads yet. I'll keep what you told me in mind, I appreciate it.

Anytime man! Welcome

[CbusVikesFan]

I'm not sure if this is serious or trolling. He was only in the DROY mix before his injury.

I am serious. Barr was not the only one garnering mention for DROY. I am pretty sure the talk has been all along with 3 players. Mack, Mosley, and Barr, in that order. I think that Mosley should be the DROY, he plugged in from day one, and plays all downs. His numbers are in the top 10 in tackles and his coverage skills out pace either of the two. Not saying that Barr is not a good player, but for my money the better pick would have been Mosley. This is not hindsight, I was watching and praying that the Vikings would draft Mosley.

[frosted]

I am serious. Barr was not the only one garnering mention for DROY. I am pretty sure the talk has been all along with 3 players. Mack, Mosley, and Barr, in that order. I think that Mosley should be the DROY, he plugged in from day one, and plays all downs. His numbers are in the top 10 in tackles and his coverage skills out pace either of the two. Not saying that Barr is not a good player, but for my money the better pick would have been Mosley. This is not hindsight, I was watching and praying that the Vikings would draft Mosley.

No one's disputing that Mosley is a good player. The fact that you stated, "I really could care less what Barr does into the future, he is already sucking hind teat as far as I am concerned.", makes it seem like you are saying that Barr is not a good player.

I'll say this much: I was hoping to trade down a few picks in the draft last May and select Mosley. I actually felt he projected well as the MIKE or the WILL in Zim's defense. When we drafted Barr, I was a little stunned..then shocked...then intrigued. After seeing him play, I am glad we drafted him. He brings so much to the table.

Personally, what gives me pause is the fact that Odell Beckham Jr. was drafted 13th - he might end up being the best player in that draft by a country mile.

[Mothman]

Thanks man. I'm new to the board so I haven't got a chance to read through all the threads yet. I'll keep what you told me in mind, I appreciate it.

After reading the brief discussion in the thread you started, I went ahead and merged it with this one.

By the way, welcome to the board, MusicCityViking and Optimistic5!

[PurpleKoolaid]

No sack D? With the amount of risks Zim takes calling plays on gameday, I think his defense has a pretty big sack.




In all seriousness, the 'no sack' nonsense is just that, nonsense. The basic premise of that observation was that a bunch of guys in Cincy's defense had a handful of sacks, generally, rather than 1 or 2 getting a ton. That doesn't always wind up being the case though, as we saw this year, with Everson piling up 12, and at times in Cincy, Michael Johnson and Geno Atkins both had double digit sack totals.

I was joking sir. At the start of the year people like myself were saying. 'why cant Robison get a sack when those around him are'? I was told, 'Norv system doesn't call for sack, just hurries'. Someone forgot to tell the rest of the line that. I don't think Robo is real good on tackles either.

[DK Sweets]

I was joking sir. At the start of the year people like myself were saying. 'why cant Robison get a sack when those around him are'? I was told, 'Norv system doesn't call for sack, just hurries'. Someone forgot to tell the rest of the line that. I don't think Robo is real good on tackles either.

Well, it IS true that Norv prefers a system where no players get a sack...