Report: Vikes looking to "get rid of" AP (AD)

[Mothman]

Herschel Walker.

Well, I'm convinced...

[Eli]

Well, I'm convinced...

Well, I certainly wouldn't have expected you to pass on an opportunity to inject a snarky comment.

[Just Me]

Herschel Walker.

And if we can get the same deal for Peterson that the Cowboys got for Walker, I'd say go for it! Do you think we will?

[Mothman]

Well, I certainly wouldn't have expected you to pass on an opportunity to inject a snarky comment.

LOL! Talk about the pot calling the kettle black...

As I said yesterday, the reactions you get to your posts have everything to do with the nature of what you're posting and the attitude behind it. This case is no different. Your snarky remark led to one in kind. You seem to like tweaking nerves but like the rest of us, you don't like having them tweaked. Instead of snapping back at me, you could consider taking on a more constructive role instead. Then, instead of prompting a snarky remark, your post might have prompted an interesting response.

If you insist on being the board's resident rain cloud, people are naturally going to break out their umbrellas...

[Eli]

LOL! Talk about the pot calling the kettle black...

As I said yesterday, the reactions you get to your posts have everything to do with the nature of what you're posting and the attitude behind it. This case is no different. Your snarky remark led to one in kind. You seem to like tweaking nerves but like the rest of us, you don't like having them tweaked. Instead of snapping back at me, you could consider taking on a more constructive role instead. Then, instead of prompting a snarky remark, your post might have prompted an interesting response.

If you insist on being the board's resident rain cloud, people are naturally going to break out their umbrellas...

And followed by your inevitable kindergarten-level assessment.

Herschel Walker was dealt. Much to the advantage of the Cowboys. Good players are traded. Every team is trying to get better and the salary cap means that everyone works on a roughly level playing field. The imbecile who thinks a blanket statement such as 'Good NFL teams work to collect game-changing talent. They don't trade it away.' is a recipe for success will be disappointed when his team has a few overpaid stars surrounded by journeymen.

[Mothman]

And followed by your inevitable kindergarten-level assessment.

Herschel Walker was dealt. Much to the advantage of the Cowboys. Good players are traded. Every team is trying to get better and the salary cap means that everyone works on a roughly level playing field. The imbecile who thinks a blanket statement such as 'Good NFL teams work to collect game-changing talent. They don't trade it away.' is a recipe for success will be disappointed when his team has a few overpaid stars surrounded by journeymen.

... and on that juvenile note, I'll leave it to the moderators to decide if any action needs to be taken or not.

[dead_poet]

The imbecile who thinks a blanket statement such as 'Good NFL teams work to collect game-changing talent. They don't trade it away.' is a recipe for success will be disappointed when his team has a few overpaid stars surrounded by journeymen.

Please. Getting rid of All Pro players not yet past their prime is the exception more often than it is the rule, financials aside. You'd be hard-pressed to find a coach or GM that would turn away Hall of Fame-caliber players. And getting a star doesn't mean your team is only allowed journeymen to fill out the roster. You're still allowed to draft. I'd like to see a Super Bowl-winning team that didn't have stars on it.

Regarding Hershel Walker, you need to look a bit beyond the surface there. You collect game-changing talent but you also don't pass when somebody offers you once-in-a-lifetime value for said game-changer. If someone offered two first rounders and one second rounder (six picks in total) for Peterson and the organization passed...I'm thinking you might be one of the first to point out that slight miscalculation.

It's obviously not as cut-and-dry as the statement above, but it's generally a pretty good idea, seeing as though great players seem to be better than good, average or poor ones. Is it really that complicated?

[Eli]

Getting rid of All Pro players not yet past their prime is the exception more often than it is the rule, financials aside.

Financials aside? That's usually the main reason to do so.

I don't think the Vikings should trade Peterson at this point in his career. There's little question that he's the main reason people have shown up to watch Vikings games the past couple of years. It's arguable whether or not his salary is justified, but even there, I'm OK with it, as long he remains the top RB in the league. When that's no longer the case, and nobody really knows when that will be, something has to give.

But I wouldn't be hugely disappointed to see him traded at some point down the line, either. If he has any value at that point. In another two or three years, his trade value won't be much.

[Purpnation]

I'm just going to say, that there is ZERO chance of a Herschel Walker like trade ever being made again, ZERO.

People just have to accept that it is a far different NFL than it was when that trade went through.

[Mothman]

I'm just going to say, that there is ZERO chance of a Herschel Walker like trade ever being made again, ZERO.

People just have to accept that it is a far different NFL than it was when that trade went through.

Indeed. That trade happened 25 years ago!

[chicagopurple]

I do not believe there is a GM out there dumb enough to mortgage a whole team for ONE RB.....The Vikes themselves taught the rest of the league to not be THAT stupid. HOWEVER, if a team was that crazy, you would have to consider it. No one player is more important that the team. Having a great RB and little else will never get us a championship. We aren't "on the cusp of greatness". But I don't think there is a team out there dumb enough to make the trade worthwhile. PLUS, AP puts butts in the seats.....NO ONE else on the team does that.....sad but true.

[VikeMike]

After Mike Lynn did the Walker trade, Mike Dikta mortgaged an entire draft to get Ricky Williams. That worked out as well as the Walker trade.
If there was such an offer for Peterson, then it would almost be impossible for the vIkings to pass on the deal, but it ismore unlikely that such an offer would ever be made.

This being a message board (spoiler alert), I can't see why someone stating an opinion should ever cause another to call them an imbecile. Maybe it wasn't as an elaborate opinion as you would like to see, Eli, but it hardly was something to resort to name calling.

Personally, I don't see the Vikings seeing this contract to its end, unless Peterson continues to pile up inhuman seasons. This year will be a good barometer -- he's coming off a productive year when he was healthy, although it was a fall-off to a season-for-the-ages. He could have led the league in rushing had he not missed so much time at the end of the season. Say Peterson runs for 1,600 years and the Vikings improve to 9-7 or 8-8. I think they don't mention restructuring his deal for the next year.

I think they want him here when the new stadium opens. I think they might introduce the idea of restructuring the contract, but privately. I don't think they would out right release him unless his production fell off the map and he refused to restructure.

[Eli]

Say Peterson runs for 1,600 years and the Vikings improve to 9-7 or 8-8. I think they don't mention restructuring his deal for the next year.

I'd say the bar is set much lower than that. In 2012 Peterson had about 22 carries per game, and in 2013 about 20 carries per game over 14 games. I think the Vikings will reduce that this year, especially if McKinnon shows a little something. If Peterson averages 4.5 YPC, which is what he averaged last year, and 18 carries per game, then he's looking at 1300 yards. I don't think the Vikings W/L record will factor into it all. If he avoids injury and keeps his YPC in that ballpark, that's all it should take to avoid any renegotiation.

I don't think they would out right release him unless his production fell off the map and he refused to restructure.

Maybe not before 2016, but when the time comes, yeah, they'd release him if he refuses.

Edit: Looking at his contract, that offseason after the 2015 season would be tough to predict. He no longer costs anything to release, and his salary jumps from $13M to $15M.

[Purple bruise]

HOW QUICKLY SOME FORGET: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGaaoEUsqkM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6qCoEFVsW8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDejgWuV6bM

I DO NOT WANT THIS GUY PLAYING FOR ANYONE BUT THE VIKINGS

[Funkytown]

The running back position is being devalued throughout the NFL, but Adrian Peterson would like to be the man to reverse that trend.

The Minnesota Vikings back told Dan Pompei, for Sports on Earth, he wants to "beat down the things they are saying about the running back position."

"We haven't had a good back, a must have guy, come out of college in a couple years," he said. "That's what's missing. You get a guy who comes out who is like Marshawn Lynch ... you'll definitely want to bring that guy in."

While it's good for the Vikings that Peterson wants to carry the torch for all his position peers -- a motivated Peterson is a scary Peterson -- even if he shattered the running record and played until he was 40, teams still wouldn't view the position differently.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap200000 ... reputation