Adrian Peterson Reinstated

[Thaumaturgist]

Peterson said he was treated unfairly, where is that documented?? When did the Vikes not have his back? Oh yeah when they paid him his full salary How does Klue-less know that AD hasn't "owned up to his mistakes"? Maybe he has to his family and friends for all anyone knows. Who asked for his opinion anyway?
I have zero respect for him but some seem to love him and stand up for him and that's fine.

I don't usually care for Kluwe much, but IMHO it seems a pretty fair and balanced opinion from him.

[Mothman]

I don't usually care for Kluwe much, but IMHO it seems a pretty fair and balanced opinion from him.

It doesn't seem fair to me at all because he's perpetuating this idea:

“Obviously, AP can still play, but I think he needs to show that he understands he did something wrong and that he wants to work to change that, which I don’t know that he’s really shown yet,”[/quote

Apparently, if it happens in Vegas, it stays in Vegas but if it doesn't happen in a televised interview on Sportscenter, it didn't happen at all. Peterson has expressed that he understands what he did was wrong (and expressed regret about it) and he has been working to change and yet all of that just falls on deaf ears and people like Kluwe just perpetuate the idea that none of the above has happened. It's not just annoying, it's irresponsible.

Kluwe handled his own situation with the Vikings so poorly that it takes real nerve for him to call out another player like this.

[Thaumaturgist]

It doesn't seem fair to me at all because he's perpetuating this idea:

True... Can't I just sit on both sides of this?
I think I was so surprised that he made some good points (IMHO, unusual for him) that I glossed right over that whopper!

[dead_poet]

Good article on the latest. Details under each point: http://sports.yahoo.com/news/who-is-rea ... soc_trk=ma

Who is really in play for potential Adrian Peterson trade?

As of the start of draft week, the Dallas Cowboys have NOT gotten involved

The Arizona Cardinals do not want to surrender their first-round pick

Teams with high second-round picks trigger trade buzz, but unlikely partners

Vikings general manager Rick Spielman is making the call

The Vikings' stance with Peterson is very much about Teddy Bridgewater

The Vikings could still commit to Peterson beyond 2015

If Peterson isn't traded by Saturday morning, he'll stay a Viking in 2015

[Mothman]

True... Can't I just sit on both sides of this?

By all means! be my guest...

I think I was so surprised that he made some good points (IMHO, unusual for him) that I glossed right over that whopper!

[dead_poet]

From the article I posted. Worthy of highlighting.

For all of the offseason elbow-throwing from Peterson's father and his agent, the Vikings know this: up until now, Adrian Peterson has not stepped out publicly and shredded the franchise. Has he indicated he would be more comfortable elsewhere? Yes. But that's a far cry from tearing down all the bridges in Minneapolis. The fact remains that he could have said far worse than he has. And for the Vikings, that is an encouraging sign.

All of the acrimony that has taken place has largely been between elements of the front office and either Peterson's agent, Ben Dogra, or Peterson's father, Nelson. This is important. If history has taught anything, this is when an agent earns their money – by shooting arrows for his client and then stepping in front of any volley of fire that comes back. While fans and media have been critical of Peterson, he still hasn't said much that is truly inflammatory. He can still shape his own narrative in this ordeal, and that's huge.

[Cliff]

It doesn't seem fair to me at all because he's perpetuating this idea:
Apparently, if it happens in Vegas, it stays in Vegas but if it doesn't happen in a televised interview on Sportscenter, it didn't happen at all. Peterson has expressed that he understands what he did was wrong (and expressed regret about it) and he has been working to change and yet all of that just falls on deaf ears and people like Kluwe just perpetuate the idea that none of the above has happened. It's not just annoying, it's irresponsible.

Kluwe handled his own situation with the Vikings so poorly that it takes real nerve for him to call out another player like this.

He's said the words he regrets it. He's gone to a counseling session and it could be that Peterson truly regrets what he did and feels he has a problem that needs to be dealt with, however, this incident happened months before it became public knowledge and he only sought counseling after it was required for reinstatement.

At the same time he's also blaming the people of Minnesota for "kicking him while he's down" rather than understanding what he did is the reason for that reaction. That mentality doesn't match with someone who realizes what they did was wrong and people had a right to be outraged at what happened.

I think it's just as easy to draw that conclusion that Peterson is saying what he has to say for reinstatement and public opinion sake just as easily as you can conclude all of his statements have been sincere.

[Norv Zimmer]

Paul allen says AP will not be traded, and will be in Purple and Gold in San Francisco.

[Mothman]

He's said the words he regrets it. He's gone to a counseling session and it could be that Peterson truly regrets what he did and feels he has a problem that needs to be dealt with, however, this incident happened months before it became public knowledge and he only sought counseling after it was required for reinstatement.

He actually mentioned meeting with a psychologist about the issue all the way back in his initial written statement to the press back in September. This USAToday article from November 18th also states:

Peterson has acknowledged injuring his son but said that was not his intent, and said he has sought counseling from a psychologist on other ways to discipline children.

Does when he sought counseling matter that much anyway? He has been receiving counseling and has supposedly been making progress with it, which seems like the important thing to me.

At the same time he's also blaming the people of Minnesota for "kicking him while he's down" rather than understanding what he did is the reason for that reaction.

I don't think anything he's said suggests he fails to understand the reason for the reaction. I got the impression he was just disappointed by the reaction. Of course, people were obviously disappointed with him too (an understatement).

That mentality doesn't match with someone who realizes what they did was wrong and people had a right to be outraged at what happened.

I think it matches quite well with someone who doesn't see himself as a child-abusing monster but as a caring parent who went way overboard one time while disciplining his child and sincerely regrets it. To an awful lot of people, that one action defines Peterson but quite naturally, he doesn't see it that way. To me, the reaction you referred to above has always struck me as that of someone who sees himself as a caring parent who made a huge mistake and is hurt that people not only didn't give him the benefit of the doubt about that but eagerly believed what he claims were misrepresentations or outright falsehoods about him in the press.

I think it's just as easy to draw that conclusion that Peterson is saying what he has to say for reinstatement and public opinion sake just as easily as you can conclude all of his statements have been sincere.

Sure it's easy and it's obvious that people are going to draw whatever conclusions they want no matter what he does. A thousand tearful apologies on television and contributions to charity won't change that. If people choose to believe he's insincere, they'll just see all of it as an act. If people refuse to believe Peterson is sincere, there's also no way for him to demonstrate that, as Kluwe put it, " he understands he did something wrong and that he wants to work to change that". It's not as if he can take his actions back. However, he's been in counseling, he's "said the words" that he regrets what happened, he's repeatedly expressed his love for his son, the boy's mother has allowed him to see his son again and it appears (to me anyway) that Peterson genuinely wants to be a part of his child's life. I don't see anything to contradict the idea that he means what he's been saying and because he's been saying it, and taking other action, I think it's wrong for Kluwe to perpetuate the idea that it's not happening.

[dead_poet]

‏@PhilMackey Based on newest info re: AP & #Cardinals... If Arizona offered you a late 2nd rd pick for Peterson this week, would you take it? Or keep AP?

My vote? Keep him.

[dead_poet]

Top Teams Steer Clear of Adrian Peterson, for Good Reason

http://www.sharpfootballanalysis.com/bl ... ood-reason

[losperros]

My vote? Keep him.

I agree. The Cards have to do better than that.

Actually, I hope AD stays with the Vikings - period.

[Mothman]

Top Teams Steer Clear of Adrian Peterson, for Good Reason

http://www.sharpfootballanalysis.com/bl ... ood-reason

Once again, I have to say this doesn't seem like very "sharp" analysis at all.

[dead_poet]

Once again, I have to say this doesn't seem like very "sharp" analysis at all.

Yeah, I hesitated posting it. I appreciated some of the analysis but there are holes all over.

[Mothman]

Yeah, I hesitated posting it. I appreciated some of the analysis but there are holes all over.

Exactly. It's not that he doesn't make some interesting points and observations but his overall argument is pretty weak.

That said, my football-starved brain is happy to read almost anything football-related at this time of year!