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I thought I read somewhere that it is Troy Brown, at the recommendation of Parcells to Zim.PacificNorseWest wrote:Just going to take a stab at who this muse is, but my guess is T.J. Houshmandzadeh. He was one of the smarter receivers around when he played and, of course, he has Zimmer's respect and vice versa.
That's what was reported as a rumor here: http://vikingsterritory.com/2015/rumors ... -pattersonfrosted wrote: I thought I read somewhere that it is Troy Brown, at the recommendation of Parcells to Zim.
Brown is the guy Patterson went to on his own. Zimmer said CP has contacted his guy and they will be getting together also.dead_poet wrote:
That's what was reported as a rumor here: http://vikingsterritory.com/2015/rumors ... -patterson
Zimmer hasn't confirmed.
The Vikings are trying to move Cordarrelle Patterson, but there's A REASON (he can't learn the offense).
— Omar Kelly (@OmarKelly) March 12, 2015
The implication is supposed to be that Patterson is too dumb to learn the offense.The Breeze wrote:Who the heck is Omar Kelly? codename for Chip?
And what is that line about the 'REASON' mean?
That's just weird...man.
Basically, as I just posted in the free agency thread, it sounds like if a team is interested in Patterson, the Vikes are willing to listen.PeteBercich @PeteBercich
Rumor - Texans inquiring about Patterson in a trade. Vikes not actively shopping him, but gauging value
I would caution us all to look at this from the perspective of fans who have no idea what goes on in the locker room, the film room, or on the practice field.Mothman wrote: It's a given that he needs to develop into a more well-rounded player but they seemed to expect that to happen overnight and when it didn't, they benched him instead of adapting and coming up with some ways to get more production out of him. As Zimmer said, it's a two-way street. Turner appeared inflexible and unimaginative when it came to Patterson.
I think everybody agrees that he needs to improve his overall game but that's been a given since before he was drafted. He was a project from the start and developing a project takes time.J. Kapp 11 wrote:I would caution us all to look at this from the perspective of fans who have no idea what goes on in the locker room, the film room, or on the practice field.
We don't know the full reasons Patterson's production fell off to the point where he was benched. Maybe Norv was unimaginative and refused to use Patterson's unique talents. Or it could just as easily have been a lack of effort -- physically, mentally, or attitudinally -- on Patterson's part that we simply weren't privy to. Let's all remember -- the same complaints were being thrown around for the first 3/4 of CP's rookie season, and that was with a different coaching staff. Perhaps there's a reason or two that extend beyond a lack of imagination.
Let's think about this, as well ...
If Patterson isn't playing well enough to be an every-down player, then bringing him on the field for an imaginative play pretty much takes the surprise out of it. We saw that this year. The second CP came on the field, the other team knew something was up. CP has got to improve his overall game to the point that he can stay on the field, or he's going to be ineffective, no matter how talented he is, or how imaginative the coaching is.
Of course there's blame to go both ways. My beef is that he proved at the end of 2013, and in the first game of 2014, that he can make big plays, scoring plays, with his natural athleticism when he's given opportunities to do so and yet a Vikings teams that struggled on offense more often than not last year ended up benching arguably their most athletically gifted player. There were undoubtedly some good, justifiable reasons for that but I still think, over the course of the season, they squandered a talent that could have helped them and I put that as much on Turner as on Patterson himself. YMMV.I guess all I'm saying is there's likely blame to go both ways. I want CP to succeed in the worst way. He can be such an exciting player. But when a guy falls behind a Cleveland practice-squad castoff and Adam Thielen on the depth chart, he has to accept some blame.
Well, I'll bring up the point again ... we have no idea of CP's work ethic in the locker room, in the film room, in meetings, and at practice. I'll leave it at that.Mothman wrote: I think everybody agrees that he needs to improve his overall game but that's been a given since before he was drafted. He was a project from the start and developing a project takes time.
For some reason, this discussion keeps coming down to the contrast between Patterson being an every down player or a gadget player, but there's plenty of room in-between those two extremes.
Of course there's blame to go both ways. My beef is that he proved at the end of 2013, and in the first game of 2014, that he can make big plays, scoring plays, with his natural athleticism when he's given opportunities to do so and yet a Vikings teams that struggled on offense more often than not last year ended up benching arguably their most athletically gifted player. There were undoubtedly some good, justifiable reasons for that but I still think, over the course of the season, they squandered a talent that could have helped them and I put that as much on Turner as on Patterson himself. YMMV.
The end of the year Vikings pack up locker room Patterson's attitude, really bugged me..Well, I'll bring up the point again ... we have no idea of CP's work ethic in the locker room, in the film room, in meetings, and at practice. I'll leave it at that.
I honestly believe Pattersons issues on the field this year are much simpler than his ability to learn the system and run routes.jackal wrote: The end of the year Vikings pack up locker room Patterson's attitude, really bugged me..
It was like he an extra in rap video showing his bling and his nick names... I was your
nickname should be splinter or pine butt, because you have not learned to run routes, moron.
I hope he comes back and proves me wrong, but at this point he seems like a total waste of
talent and several picks, to reach for him. I don't know the behind closed doors info.. I'll
admit. Well find out in about six months....
