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Bring back Greg Childs!
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Wait, are you trying to draw a comparison between the two, or the "folk hero" following that Childs seemed to inspire in fans? There's a difference: one's put up some pretty solid numbers in actual games. Is it early? Yes. But he looks great so far; nothing wrong with being excited about that.720pete wrote:Bring back Greg Childs!
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CP is out #4 WR and you are blaming Norv? Or can CP only concept gimmick plays? If he can run route (which he hadn't really done until it was almost too late yesterday) you think Norv will have him sitting on the bench? Because Norv doesn't like him? Because he wants the Vikings to lose? The guy cant get off the line, and runs poor routes. That's why they brought Charlie Johnson here.losperros wrote: Patterson has his #### in gear. He showed that during his good KR late in the game. He just can't get touches. That one is on Norv.
Johnson is an exciting player. The Vikings should try more 4WR sets with Johnson, Jennings, Wright, and Patterson. That's a lot of speed on the field and could develop into some big plays.
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Imagine then Johnson opposite an Amari Cooper or more realistic, Devante Parker...
We could let Jennings slide into the slot where he belongs. WR would be strength!
We could let Jennings slide into the slot where he belongs. WR would be strength!
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Imagine then Johnson opposite an Amari Cooper or more realistic, Devante Parker...
We could let Jennings slide into the slot where he belongs. WR would be strength!
We could let Jennings slide into the slot where he belongs. WR would be strength!
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IIsweet wrote:Imagine then Johnson opposite an Amari Cooper or more realistic, Devante Parker...
We could let Jennings slide into the slot where he belongs. WR would be strength!
The first time you posted it I was excited... the second just blew my mind!
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Yes. Unless something else is amiss, such as a health problem. Personally, I thought Patterson looked very quick on the long kick return, so I don't think he's hurt.PurpleKoolaid wrote:CP is out #4 WR and you are blaming Norv?
Moot point. Norv runs gimmick plays, reverses, WR screens, etc. I'm saying Patterson should be more involved with those.PurpleKoolaid wrote: Or can CP only concept gimmick plays?
I think that's what we're presently witnessing. I just don't happen to agree with it, though I do still like Norv Turner a lot.PurpleKoolaid wrote:If he can run route (which he hadn't really done until it was almost too late yesterday) you think Norv will have him sitting on the bench?
I don't know. Neither do you. None of us have an inside track to what goes on behind closed doors with the Vikings. Only Norv really knows what he's thinking. Whatever the thought process is, I hope he opens his mind and gives Patterson more touches.PurpleKoolaid wrote: Because Norv doesn't like him? Because he wants the Vikings to lose?
Patterson helped the Vikings a lot late last season. I don't believe he lost all that talent, so I'd like to see him utilized more often.PurpleKoolaid wrote:The guy cant get off the line, and runs poor routes. That's why they brought Charlie Johnson here.
I doubt that Charles Johnson was brought to the team to be a #2WR. I like Johnson and have no problem with him, though he's far from being a perfect wide out. Johnson being on the field helps the other WRs, including Patterson. I believe Patterson's abilities on the field would help Johnson in turn. I don't buy that only one of them should or could be used during a game.
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Hard to do when defenses know they can get up and be physical with him. Making it much more difficult to run any sort of "gimmick" play. It's a lot easier when a defense has to play off for fear of getting beat deep, or being beat off the line. He's a one trick pony, and it's a pretty easy trick to figure out. And teams figured it out. Norv realized it, and isn't banging his head against that wall anymore.Moot point. Norv runs gimmick plays, reverses, WR screens, etc. I'm saying Patterson should be more involved with those.
Hopefully Patterson gets his #### straight, or we move him to a team that's willing to put up with a quasi-WR. Seahawks have an opening...
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I almost wish that really was the case and the explanation was that simple. Then it would explain why a player who can be used in a number of ways, therefore making him anything but a one-trick pony, can't get on the field. Good to hear that Norv isn't banging his head against the wall anymore, though.Demi wrote:Hard to do when defenses know they can get up and be physical with him. Making it much more difficult to run any sort of "gimmick" play. It's a lot easier when a defense has to play off for fear of getting beat deep, or being beat off the line. He's a one trick pony, and it's a pretty easy trick to figure out. And teams figured it out. Norv realized it, and isn't banging his head against that wall anymore..
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Good point LP. I agree. He needs to be utilized morelosperros wrote: I almost wish that really was the case and the explanation was that simple. Then it would explain why a player who can be used in a number of ways, therefore making him anything but a one-trick pony, can't get on the field. Good to hear that Norv isn't banging his head against the wall anymore, though.
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I want go to a Packer site and say thank you for the Draft pick..... Ha Ha
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I'm sure they aren't too upset, considering all the WR talent they have. No way he would have even gotten a chance. The only was he was gonna be able to show anything was with a team like the Vikings.jackal wrote:I want go to a Packer site and say thank you for the Draft pick..... Ha Ha
This is why I always say, never leave a stone unturned. There have been countless NFL players throughout history, who if they had been given a chance would have showed greatness. Think of Warner bagging groceries, or Unitas being released by the Steelers and on the street. Or closer to home, the Johnny Randle story. If Holmgren hadn't traded for Favre, he might have been a 5 year backup and moved on to car salesman.
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Yet some still swear it was a horrible pass.Pondering Her Percy wrote:http://www.vikings.com/media-vault/vide ... e50e8618e9
Johnson's interview. It stuck out to me when he said that first INT wasn't Teddy's fault at all. He said if wasn't tripped up he would have had no problem catching it
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To me that is what I saw as well. Teddy thought Johnson was going to be there and he got slowed down.Yet some still swear it was a horrible pass.
The second INT I thought was Teddy being frustrated and trying too hard. I am not sure if it was the very
pass but it was shortly after it. I think sometimes some Vikings enjoy the Vikings blunders than success's.
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I agree jackal and honestly, I've never understood why that isjackal wrote:I think sometimes some Vikings fans enjoy the Vikings blunders than success's.
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