We could have used the guy in your avatar at left tackle this year!BGM wrote: This is true. The OL has needed upgrading and the OL players we have chosen have been misfires or, at the risk of beating a dead horse, are not being coached very well. There is very little depth behind the starting five and that starting five has been abysmal this season.
Vikings considering changes on the offensive line
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I agree. Fusco's absence is having a more adverse effect on the OL than many think. I'm sure the cadence between Loadholt and Fusco helped the right side a lot. Now it seems as if the entire OL can't play as a unit.dead_poet wrote:Loadholt isn't perfect by any means, but he's better than average. With a healthy Fusco next to him, they form a formidable right side of the line. It's probably not a surprise that he's not performing as well with a considerable downgrade next to him.
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"Anybody want a peanut?"fiestavike wrote: We could have used the guy in your avatar at left tackle this year!
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He is a good run blocker, but how much longer are we a run first team and does that play a factor in what we look for in a RT. But my main reason for saying all that is because Kalil is getting torn apart by fans for his performance this season... Has anyone seen Loadholt? It was absolutely dreadful. He looks like an ogre with one leg shorter than the other.dead_poet wrote: Don't bet on Loadholt being released, for a number of reasons. Is he the best right tackle in the league? No. But he is one of the best run-blocking right tackles in the league. His pass protection, at times, can be suspect, but it's not like he's the only right tackle that gets beat in pass protection. We just notice it more because we don't pay attention to other teams' right tackles. He'd start and be an upgrade on many teams.
Plus, he just signed a contract extension, is due $5.4 million in 2015 and we'd be searching for a potential upgrade. If he's released, there's as big (or more) of a chance that whoever is signed to replace him is a worse run blocker and as "good" (or bad) of a pass blocker to make the change a net negative in the overall scheme of things.
Loadholt isn't perfect by any means, but he's better than average. With a healthy Fusco next to him, they form a formidable right side of the line. It's probably not a surprise that he's not performing as well with a considerable downgrade next to him.
There were plays where the whole line held up with the exception of Loadholt. after saying that, I think that better guards would do the job this year with some help on the outside from a TE. There's nothing else the team can do. The whole Line needs to get it together, but I think the quickest way would be like Mothman said, start running the damn ball and get them feeling good.
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So Fusco being gone is leading to Loadholt being unable to block his man one on one? Or blaming Charlie Johnson for Ansah dominating Kalil repeatedly? If it were simply a case of a blitz not being picked up or a guy missing his assignment, that'd be understandable. But not even being able to man up against a guy and getting completely owned? I find it hard to believe that's on missing Fusco.losperros wrote: I agree. Fusco's absence is having a more adverse effect on the OL than many think. I'm sure the cadence between Loadholt and Fusco helped the right side a lot. Now it seems as if the entire OL can't play as a unit.
So you don't think the lack of depth on the offensive line thanks to the general manager not finding talent or focusing on it is a valid concern in a thread about possible changes?We get it, you don't like Speielman. You don't have to clog every thread with it.
Hell, let's go a step further, people want to blame the coaching, he just kept the offensive line coach when he brought in the new coaching staff!
I don't blame him, I think Davidson has done a good job with what he was given, and not sure how he could coach up a top 5 offensive linemen in any way they shouldn't have already been coached up. But where else can you look? If there were better options...they'd already be playing...
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I would take an orange one, please.BGM wrote: "Anybody want a peanut?"
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What are you saying, that a dead guy could do better than what we have?fiestavike wrote: We could have used the guy in your avatar at left tackle this year!
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He's only mostly dead.Purple Reign wrote: What are you saying, that a dead guy could do better than what we have?
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Not sure if you are being serious here or not - Andre the Giant (who is the guy in the avatar) died in 1993. I would say he's all the way dead. Or are you referring to Kalil?BGM wrote: He's only mostly dead.
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It is a quote from the movie Princess Bride, the source of the pic which is my avatar. Just a small joke.Purple Reign wrote: Not sure if you are being serious here or not - Andre the Giant (who is the guy in the avatar) died in 1993. I would say he's all the way dead. Or are you referring to Kalil?
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Gotcha - thanks for the clarification. Been a long time since I saw that movie - but I do remember "Inconceivable!"BGM wrote: It is a quote from the movie Princess Bride, the source of the pic which is my avatar. Just a small joke.
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The "all tje way dead" part made me laugh.Purple Reign wrote: Not sure if you are being serious here or not - Andre the Giant (who is the guy in the avatar) died in 1993. I would say he's all the way dead. Or are you referring to Kalil?
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BGM wrote: He's only mostly dead.
right now our offensive line is suffering the same fate as Prince Humperdink..."humiliations galore!"
Ndamakong Suh was the Dread Pirate Roberts, and they were the castle guard! Parabolic mics picked up Kalil saying "Oh you mean this gate key" just before the 6th sack of Bridgewater! It'll be featured on "mic'd up"
It was reported that in a meeting this week Zimmer spoke to the offensive line, saying, "I AM HERE, BUT SOON YOU WILL NOT BE HERE!!!!"
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BWAHAHA!!!fiestavike wrote:
right now our offensive line is suffering the same fate as Prince Humperdink..."humiliations galore!"
Ndamakong Suh was the Dread Pirate Roberts, and they were the castle guard! Parabolic mics picked up Kalil saying "Oh you mean this gate key" just before the 6th sack of Bridgewater! It'll be featured on "mic'd up"
It was reported that in a meeting this week Zimmer spoke to the offensive line, saying, "I AM HERE, BUT SOON YOU WILL NOT BE HERE!!!!"
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