Offensive formations & film observations --Week 8

[dead_poet]

For the second straight week, the Vikings offense produced just one drive of 10-plus plays, while the Packers put up scoring drives of 14-, 15- and 17-plays that kept the ball in their hands.

Because of those lengthy Packers drives, Ponder held the ball for a combined eight plays in the first and third quarters. The Vikings made the most of their season-low 19:06 time of possession in garbage time

That TOP is entirely unacceptable.

Running back Adrian Peterson had 13 carries for 60 yards and now has just 36 carries for 150 yards across his last three games.

THAT is entirely unacceptable.

Personnel sets:

Shotgun 1 tight end / 3 receivers: 21 plays
1 tight end / 2 receivers / 1 fullback: 7 plays
1 tight end / 3 receivers: 7 plays
2 tight ends / 2 receivers: 4 plays
1 fullback / 3 receivers: 2 plays
1 tight end / 2 receivers / 2 running backs: 2 plays

Total: 43 plays

Noteworthy.

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[Texas Vike]

Noteworthy.

Very interesting. 3 WRs on 21 plays in shotgun and 7 plays not in shotgun; 28 of 43 plays? 65% of the plays. I wonder how many of those plays included CP84. Is Musgrave FINALLY realizing that Carlson is not worth having on the field? And that Patterson is a much bigger threat?

Our TOP is totally unacceptable.

[dead_poet]

Very interesting. 3 WRs on 21 plays in shotgun and 7 plays not in shotgun; 28 of 43 plays? 65% of the plays. I wonder how many of those plays included CP84. Is Musgrave FINALLY realizing that Carlson is not worth having on the field? And that Patterson is a much bigger threat?

Pretty sure Patterson played on around 14-15 offensive plays in this one, one fewer than Webb.

[Mothman]

Pretty sure Patterson played on around 14-15 offensive plays in this one, one fewer than Webb.

Who, as far as I'm concerned, shouldn't be taking a single snap that Patterson could be taking instead.

[mondry]

Very interesting. 3 WRs on 21 plays in shotgun and 7 plays not in shotgun; 28 of 43 plays? 65% of the plays. I wonder how many of those plays included CP84. Is Musgrave FINALLY realizing that Carlson is not worth having on the field? And that Patterson is a much bigger threat?

Our TOP is totally unacceptable.

Nice, that's what I've been wanting to see, but I guess having that many targets on the field is a waste when your QB can't get past his first read before he tucks it down to run.

[soflavike]

Nice, that's what I've been wanting to see, but I guess having that many targets on the field is a waste when your QB can't get past his first read before he tucks it down to run.

True... maybe they should play a single wideout with two TE's and two RB's on every play. Better blocking for the tuck and run.

[mondry]

True... maybe they should play a single wideout with two TE's and two RB's on every play. Better blocking for the tuck and run.

haha! Actually it'd be better to put 4 WR's on the field and just send them all on go routes deep, pull all those DB's down the field and then let Ponder take off.

[S197]

Very interesting. 3 WRs on 21 plays in shotgun and 7 plays not in shotgun; 28 of 43 plays? 65% of the plays. I wonder how many of those plays included CP84. Is Musgrave FINALLY realizing that Carlson is not worth having on the field? And that Patterson is a much bigger threat?

Our TOP is totally unacceptable.

I think it's a little skewed due to being down so many points forcing passing situations. I'd venture to guess most of those shotgun formations were in garbage time. Also, 1 fullback and 3 receivers? I don't recall any plays where Felton was out there solo. I do recall seeing at least one play with Peterson and Gerhart.

[im4mnvikes]

Shotgun 1 tight end / 3 receivers: 21 plays
1 tight end / 2 receivers / 1 fullback: 7 plays
1 tight end / 3 receivers: 7 plays
2 tight ends / 2 receivers: 4 plays
1 fullback / 3 receivers: 2 plays
1 tight end / 2 receivers / 2 running backs: 2 plays

Total: 43 plays[/quote]


Noteworthy.

[/quote]

Very interesting. 3 WRs on 21 plays in shotgun and 7 plays not in shotgun; 28 of 43 plays? 65% of the plays. I wonder how many of those plays included CP84. Is Musgrave FINALLY realizing that Carlson is not worth having on the field? And that Patterson is a much bigger threat?

Our TOP is totally unacceptable.[/quote]

Nice, that's what I've been wanting to see, but I guess having that many targets on the field is a waste when your QB can't get past his first read before he tucks it down to run. [/quote]


That is the only positive that I saw with Freeman, he is able to move in the pocket and throw the ball. To bad he can't hit water if he fel out of a boat

That is the only positive that I saw with Freeman, he is able to move in the pocket and throw the ball. To bad he can't hit water if he fell out of a boat

[Orion]

This year's vikings makes my BLOOD BOIL!! I've already had three fierce rows over what to do with this team. Every game I'm yelling at the screen.

[720pete]

Do you think Ponder is more comfortable working out of the shotgun?

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[Mothman]

I think it's a little skewed due to being down so many points forcing passing situations. I'd venture to guess most of those shotgun formations were in garbage time. Also, 1 fullback and 3 receivers? I don't recall any plays where Felton was out there solo. I do recall seeing at least one play with Peterson and Gerhart.

It might have been Ellison in the backfield instead of Felton...

... or it might be a mistake.

[Funkytown]

By the way, I thought your post earlier in this thread was great. It was just the kind of response I wanted to see when I started the thread. Thanks!

This thread?

Time to go back to night night. You're losing it.

[Mothman]

This thread?

Time to go back to night night. You're losing it.

Just exhausted... I posted that 5 minutes after getting up and I worked 18 hours yesterday.

Actually, I guess that means i probably am losing it!

I should add that when I made that post, I had just been reading some new posts at the end of the "Fix the offense' thread so I'm not completely out of it, just mostly out of it. Going "back to night night" sounds good right now.

[PurpleMustReign]

Just exhausted... I posted that 5 minutes after getting up and I worked 18 hours yesterday.

Actually, I guess that means i probably am losing it!

Don't sell yourself short Jim, you lost it years ago.