dead_poet wrote:
I am guessing that the secret workout person is probably Aaron Rodgers
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dead_poet wrote:
It's Brett Favre.Purple bruise wrote:
I am guessing that the secret workout person is probably Aaron Rodgers
If he can't make the transition it won't be because he didn't try. Really pulling for him.dead_poet wrote:Wow. Good for Patterson. I hope it pays off. His trainer sounds slightly nuts. Read this.
Vikings' Patterson works with 'Hell's trainer' to improve
http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikin ... um=twitter
Edit: Another article on Patterson's trainer (not the NFL guy): http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2011/10/11/ ... n-grunfeld
And one more: http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/therookie
As I recall, when Patterson was benched the remark given by coach was something like "not where he's supposed to be". I wonder if that is more because of bad route running, mental errors, or not getting off the jam. This type of training could certainly help with the 3rd problem, and his overall game. It would be really exciting to see him make a big leap this year.Cliff wrote: If he can't make the transition it won't be because he didn't try. Really pulling for him.
I think it was a mix of route running and getting jammed at the line. If memory serves, getting jammed was actually the bigger of the two problems.fiestavike wrote: As I recall, when Patterson was benched the remark given by coach was something like "not where he's supposed to be". I wonder if that is more because of bad route running, mental errors, or not getting off the jam. This type of training could certainly help with the 3rd problem, and his overall game. It would be really exciting to see him make a big leap this year.
Late season evaluation from Hasan:Cliff wrote: I think it was a mix of route running and getting jammed at the line. If memory serves, getting jammed was actually the bigger of the two problems.
Cliff wrote: If he can't make the transition it won't be because he didn't try. Really pulling for him.
Texas Vike wrote: Me too. That Strib write up on the mystery trainer was great. I can't help but hear "Eye of the Tiger" as I picture Patterson running up and down sand dunes with body weights strapped to him. This secretive trainer is basically an archetype in our (sports obsessed) culture: Mr. Myagi type of esoteric approaches to what the masses are trying (and failing) to achieve. I'm sure I'll imagine hearing this guy's voice laughing at me when I head to the gym to do bench presses later today!
I know what you mean. If he doesn't show improvement on the field, and quickly, the naysayers will just pile on by making comments about his training as well.It all makes for a compelling narrative, but all that matters is what he does on the field. It's fun to hear about it, but another part of me would rather not have a bunch of attention directed at what he's doing--just let him show us on the field that whatever arcane stuff he did in the off-season worked.
An undisclosed source claims it's Billy McMullen.Mothman wrote:By the way, since he was training in SF, and since he has also been working with an undisclosed former NFL WR this offseason, I can't help wondering if it's Jerry Rice, Tim Brown or another former bay area receiver. Whoever it is, I hope that training pays off as well.
losperros wrote:An undisclosed source claims it's Billy McMullen.
Being the big Brad Childress fan that you are, Jim, this must be exciting news for you!
The Vikings hope Wallace can bring a 'vertical threat,' Spielman said, to Turner's offense that was lacking in quarterback Teddy Bridgewater's first season. Bridgewater didn't have a receiver average over 50 yards per game and the Vikings are eyeing competition at the split end spot between Cordarrelle Patterson, Charles Johnson and Wallace to produce a go-to downfield threat. Wallace is obviously the frontrunner to take either the split end role, or 'X' receiver, or the flanker spot, or 'Z' receiver, which Jennings played at for the other one-third of his snaps, whether in two- or three-receiver sets.
But without Jennings, Bridgewater's targets will take on a different look. Roughly 400 routes are up for grabs from the slot, or 'Y' receiver spot, a valubale role in an offense that allows the receiver to line up off the line of scrimmage and better avoid press coverage. Like the nickel corner on defense, the slot receiver has essentially become a starter in modern offenses.
He wasn't last year, although if you look at that breakdown of slot usage from 2014 in that article, it seems like he was pretty effective from that position.dead_poet wrote:Krammer doesn't seem like Patterson is a major option in the slot
The Vikings hope Wallace can bring a 'vertical threat,' Spielman said, to Turner's offense that was lacking in quarterback Teddy Bridgewater's first season. Bridgewater didn't have a receiver average over 50 yards per game and the Vikings are eyeing competition at the split end spot between Cordarrelle Patterson, Charles Johnson and Wallace to produce a go-to downfield threat.
I think flanker makes a lot of sense for Wallace, although they're obviously going to move all of these players around.Wallace is obviously the frontrunner to take either the split end role, or 'X' receiver, or the flanker spot, or 'Z' receiver, which Jennings played at for the other one-third of his snaps, whether in two- or three-receiver sets.
Between Patterson, Wright and Diggs (do I have his name right), the Vikes have three candidates the slot with some killer speed!But without Jennings, Bridgewater's targets will take on a different look. Roughly 400 routes are up for grabs from the slot, or 'Y' receiver spot, a valubale role in an offense that allows the receiver to line up off the line of scrimmage and better avoid press coverage. Like the nickel corner on defense, the slot receiver has essentially become a starter in modern offenses.
I agree completely. I don't understand why they have to have him as an "X" WR. I think he would be much more useful out of the slot. All in all though, he had trouble with the playbook. But in a way, I do feel for the guy having 4 completely different offenses in 4 years. Now that he has another season under Turner, I feel like he will grasp it a lot moreMothman wrote:
This is my biggest complaint regarding Turner's use of Patterson. The latter does have the speed and size to be a downfield threat and he's shown he can get open on some of those plays but the best weapon in his arsenal is his explosive ability to run after the catch and I think they need to focus more on putting him in positions to make the most of that ability.