2020 Offseason News Thread (Signings, Coaching changes, etc.)
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In the nepotism category, don't forget the Pattersons. Another reason for Andre to stick around and accept the "co" title.
Have to say I was REALLY hoping Dennison would be moving on. At least Rauscher is a new face for the OL I guess.
From https://www.vikings.com/news/vikings-an ... hing-staff
Current Vikings Coaching Staff:
Mike Zimmer..................... Head Coach
Gary Kubiak...................... Offensive Coordinator/Assistant Head Coach
Marwan Maalouf............... Special Teams Coordinator
Andre Patterson................ Co-Defensive Coordinator/Defensive Line
Adam Zimmer................... Co-Defensive Coordinator/Linebackers
Rick Dennison.................. Offensive Line/Run Game Coordinator
Ryan Ficken...................... Assistant Special Teams
Andrew Janocko............... Wide Receivers
Christian Jones................. Offensive Quality Control
Daronte Jones................. Defensive Backs
Derik Keyes...................... Assistant Strength and Conditioning
Klint Kubiak...................... Quarterbacks
Chaz Mahle...................... Assistant Strength and Conditioning
Brian Pariani..................... Tight Ends
AC Patterson.................... Offensive Quality Control
Kennedy Polamalu............ Running Backs
Nick Rallis......................... Defensive Quality Control
Phil Rauscher.................. Assistant Offensive Line
Robert Rodriguez.............. Assistant Defensive Line
Mark Uyeyama................. Director of Competition Development
Have to say I was REALLY hoping Dennison would be moving on. At least Rauscher is a new face for the OL I guess.
From https://www.vikings.com/news/vikings-an ... hing-staff
Current Vikings Coaching Staff:
Mike Zimmer..................... Head Coach
Gary Kubiak...................... Offensive Coordinator/Assistant Head Coach
Marwan Maalouf............... Special Teams Coordinator
Andre Patterson................ Co-Defensive Coordinator/Defensive Line
Adam Zimmer................... Co-Defensive Coordinator/Linebackers
Rick Dennison.................. Offensive Line/Run Game Coordinator
Ryan Ficken...................... Assistant Special Teams
Andrew Janocko............... Wide Receivers
Christian Jones................. Offensive Quality Control
Daronte Jones................. Defensive Backs
Derik Keyes...................... Assistant Strength and Conditioning
Klint Kubiak...................... Quarterbacks
Chaz Mahle...................... Assistant Strength and Conditioning
Brian Pariani..................... Tight Ends
AC Patterson.................... Offensive Quality Control
Kennedy Polamalu............ Running Backs
Nick Rallis......................... Defensive Quality Control
Phil Rauscher.................. Assistant Offensive Line
Robert Rodriguez.............. Assistant Defensive Line
Mark Uyeyama................. Director of Competition Development
Re: 2020 Offseason News Thread (Signings, Coaching changes, etc.)
I hate Zimmer's plan for the offense. I think Kubiak is a great addition, but he's a symptom of Zimmer's "plan". Which of course is no plan.
I remember reading during his interview he went on about his vision for the defense and said something like "the offense will work itself out". What we've found out is that he was going to bring in an offensive coordinator and just let them do what they do. So he brought in someone with head coaching experience and let them at it. Of course when things weren't working out he suddenly wanted to pretend he was head coach again rather than just defensive coordinator and Turner walked away.
As it stands these days if you have a coordinator that has a good season (except DCs under Zimmer because everyone just assumes he's doing everything) they're going to head coach the Browns or the Dolphins next year.
Zimmer is still so hands off on the offense there isn't a coherent direction. One season you're doing 6 second drops behind an awful offensive line. One season you throw the ball a million times. Next season you're 30th in the league in passing attempts. This isn't by design to throw off opponents, this is because he's letting the next new OC/HC candidate/Former Head Coach just take over.
I remember reading during his interview he went on about his vision for the defense and said something like "the offense will work itself out". What we've found out is that he was going to bring in an offensive coordinator and just let them do what they do. So he brought in someone with head coaching experience and let them at it. Of course when things weren't working out he suddenly wanted to pretend he was head coach again rather than just defensive coordinator and Turner walked away.
As it stands these days if you have a coordinator that has a good season (except DCs under Zimmer because everyone just assumes he's doing everything) they're going to head coach the Browns or the Dolphins next year.
Zimmer is still so hands off on the offense there isn't a coherent direction. One season you're doing 6 second drops behind an awful offensive line. One season you throw the ball a million times. Next season you're 30th in the league in passing attempts. This isn't by design to throw off opponents, this is because he's letting the next new OC/HC candidate/Former Head Coach just take over.
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There absolutely is some consistency across Zimmer offenses.Cliff wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 12:30 pm I hate Zimmer's plan for the offense. I think Kubiak is a great addition, but he's a symptom of Zimmer's "plan". Which of course is no plan.
I remember reading during his interview he went on about his vision for the defense and said something like "the offense will work itself out". What we've found out is that he was going to bring in an offensive coordinator and just let them do what they do. So he brought in someone with head coaching experience and let them at it. Of course when things weren't working out he suddenly wanted to pretend he was head coach again rather than just defensive coordinator and Turner walked away.
As it stands these days if you have a coordinator that has a good season (except DCs under Zimmer because everyone just assumes he's doing everything) they're going to head coach the Browns or the Dolphins next year.
Zimmer is still so hands off on the offense there isn't a coherent direction. One season you're doing 6 second drops behind an awful offensive line. One season you throw the ball a million times. Next season you're 30th in the league in passing attempts. This isn't by design to throw off opponents, this is because he's letting the next new OC/HC candidate/Former Head Coach just take over.
Zimmer has coached 4 QBs with varying experience and talent. All of them had career years, all of them were incredibly accurate (in Case's case incredibly accurate for him) and all limited mistakes throwing the football.
That can't be a coincidence.
There have also been multiple times where he hasn't liked how his OC has been running the offense and he has stepped in. Last year he fired Stefanski, when he didn't run the football enough. In 2016 he chose Shurmur over his buddy because his offense fit the talent we had better.
I think Norv had a lot of free reign when Zimmer first got his HCing position, but I think Zimmer has become more involved in the offense since 2016. For better or for worse.
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Re: 2020 Offseason News Thread (Signings, Coaching changes, etc.)
He fired Stefanski? Man, how in the world did I miss THAT?StumpHunter wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:20 pmThere absolutely is some consistency across Zimmer offenses.Cliff wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 12:30 pm I hate Zimmer's plan for the offense. I think Kubiak is a great addition, but he's a symptom of Zimmer's "plan". Which of course is no plan.
I remember reading during his interview he went on about his vision for the defense and said something like "the offense will work itself out". What we've found out is that he was going to bring in an offensive coordinator and just let them do what they do. So he brought in someone with head coaching experience and let them at it. Of course when things weren't working out he suddenly wanted to pretend he was head coach again rather than just defensive coordinator and Turner walked away.
As it stands these days if you have a coordinator that has a good season (except DCs under Zimmer because everyone just assumes he's doing everything) they're going to head coach the Browns or the Dolphins next year.
Zimmer is still so hands off on the offense there isn't a coherent direction. One season you're doing 6 second drops behind an awful offensive line. One season you throw the ball a million times. Next season you're 30th in the league in passing attempts. This isn't by design to throw off opponents, this is because he's letting the next new OC/HC candidate/Former Head Coach just take over.
Zimmer has coached 4 QBs with varying experience and talent. All of them had career years, all of them were incredibly accurate (in Case's case incredibly accurate for him) and all limited mistakes throwing the football.
That can't be a coincidence.
There have also been multiple times where he hasn't liked how his OC has been running the offense and he has stepped in. Last year he fired Stefanski, when he didn't run the football enough. In 2016 he chose Shurmur over his buddy because his offense fit the talent we had better.
I think Norv had a lot of free reign when Zimmer first got his HCing position, but I think Zimmer has become more involved in the offense since 2016. For better or for worse.
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Re: 2020 Offseason News Thread (Signings, Coaching changes, etc.)
It was one of those "You can't quit, you're fired!" moments.Texas Vike wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 3:57 pmHe fired Stefanski? Man, how in the world did I miss THAT?StumpHunter wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:20 pm
There absolutely is some consistency across Zimmer offenses.
Zimmer has coached 4 QBs with varying experience and talent. All of them had career years, all of them were incredibly accurate (in Case's case incredibly accurate for him) and all limited mistakes throwing the football.
That can't be a coincidence.
There have also been multiple times where he hasn't liked how his OC has been running the offense and he has stepped in. Last year he fired Stefanski, when he didn't run the football enough. In 2016 he chose Shurmur over his buddy because his offense fit the talent we had better.
I think Norv had a lot of free reign when Zimmer first got his HCing position, but I think Zimmer has become more involved in the offense since 2016. For better or for worse.
So many OCs over the years and I am getting too old to keep track.
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Re: 2020 Offseason News Thread (Signings, Coaching changes, etc.)
You must mean John DeFilippo.StumpHunter wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:20 pmThere absolutely is some consistency across Zimmer offenses.Cliff wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 12:30 pm I hate Zimmer's plan for the offense. I think Kubiak is a great addition, but he's a symptom of Zimmer's "plan". Which of course is no plan.
I remember reading during his interview he went on about his vision for the defense and said something like "the offense will work itself out". What we've found out is that he was going to bring in an offensive coordinator and just let them do what they do. So he brought in someone with head coaching experience and let them at it. Of course when things weren't working out he suddenly wanted to pretend he was head coach again rather than just defensive coordinator and Turner walked away.
As it stands these days if you have a coordinator that has a good season (except DCs under Zimmer because everyone just assumes he's doing everything) they're going to head coach the Browns or the Dolphins next year.
Zimmer is still so hands off on the offense there isn't a coherent direction. One season you're doing 6 second drops behind an awful offensive line. One season you throw the ball a million times. Next season you're 30th in the league in passing attempts. This isn't by design to throw off opponents, this is because he's letting the next new OC/HC candidate/Former Head Coach just take over.
Zimmer has coached 4 QBs with varying experience and talent. All of them had career years, all of them were incredibly accurate (in Case's case incredibly accurate for him) and all limited mistakes throwing the football.
That can't be a coincidence.
There have also been multiple times where he hasn't liked how his OC has been running the offense and he has stepped in. Last year he fired Stefanski, when he didn't run the football enough. In 2016 he chose Shurmur over his buddy because his offense fit the talent we had better.
I think Norv had a lot of free reign when Zimmer first got his HCing position, but I think Zimmer has become more involved in the offense since 2016. For better or for worse.
Go ahead. I dare you.
Underestimate this man.
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Re: 2020 Offseason News Thread (Signings, Coaching changes, etc.)
Vikings hire Dom Capers as Defensive assistant.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= ... RXfrspwWMH
Good move. He's a smart guy.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= ... RXfrspwWMH
Good move. He's a smart guy.
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Re: 2020 Offseason News Thread (Signings, Coaching changes, etc.)
He's certainly an experienced guy!Maelstrom88 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 10, 2020 3:20 pm Vikings hire Dom Capers as Defensive assistant.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= ... RXfrspwWMH
Good move. He's a smart guy.
This is shaping up to be a confusing structure for the defensive coaching staff, at least from the outside. Assuming Zimmer still calls the defense, in addition to his role they will have Capers as a "senior defensive assistant plus Patterson and Adam Zimmer as co-defensive coordinators who will also continue in their roles as positions coaches. Do I have that right?
I'm sure it all makes sense to someone.
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I guess I am the only one who does not like itMaelstrom88 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 10, 2020 3:20 pm Vikings hire Dom Capers as Defensive assistant.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= ... RXfrspwWMH
Good move. He's a smart guy.
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Re: 2020 Offseason News Thread (Signings, Coaching changes, etc.)
Why not? I'm sure all the defensive coaches know that Zimmer has final say. I fail to see how it could be a bad move to bring in someone with his resume.RandyMoss84 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 10, 2020 7:59 pmI guess I am the only one who does not like itMaelstrom88 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 10, 2020 3:20 pm Vikings hire Dom Capers as Defensive assistant.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= ... RXfrspwWMH
Good move. He's a smart guy.
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Re: 2020 Offseason News Thread (Signings, Coaching changes, etc.)
Starting to look like a old folks home Maybe he can find a better use for Barr
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Because I never wanted him anywhere near our Vikings when he was Packers defensive coordinator and yeah, I know Zimmer has final say but I do not want Capers on the Vikings coaching staff but it is too late for that now, I saw Packer fans are laughing at the Vikings for hiring CapersMaelstrom88 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:11 pmWhy not? I'm sure all the defensive coaches know that Zimmer has final say. I fail to see how it could be a bad move to bring in someone with his resume.
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I feel like if he had 2 head coaching jobs and earned the reputation he has over the years he has to be able to add something positive to this staff. The packers didn't have much talent on defense when he was there imo. Clay Mathews is the only one I can think of. I just don't see a downside with this hire.RandyMoss84 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:33 amBecause I never wanted him anywhere near our Vikings when he was Packers defensive coordinator and yeah, I know Zimmer has final say but I do not want Capers on the Vikings coaching staff but it is too late for that now, I saw Packer fans are laughing at the Vikings for hiring CapersMaelstrom88 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:11 pm
Why not? I'm sure all the defensive coaches know that Zimmer has final say. I fail to see how it could be a bad move to bring in someone with his resume.
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Defensive assistant... Wonder what that means in practical terms.Maelstrom88 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 10, 2020 3:20 pm Vikings hire Dom Capers as Defensive assistant.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= ... RXfrspwWMH
Good move. He's a smart guy.
As for whether it's a good move, only time will tell that, but I suspect we (and likely the players) will barely notice it. Zimmer is the defensive mastermind and will remain in that role as far as I can tell.
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