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I’m watching the packers game tonight and thought of a very difficult question that I don’t know how to answer

If the NFCC Game is packers vs Saints .....who do we root for (and must assume Brees is healthy , can’t use Teddy B as an excuse 😀)

I just think I wouldn’t watch
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I would root for the winner to get their #### beat in the SB
I just wanna die as a Super Bowl Champion Viking Fan!!
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:point: :point:

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Saints to lose to the Chiefs in the superbowl.
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VikingPaul73 wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:04 pm I’m watching the packers game tonight and thought of a very difficult question that I don’t know how to answer

If the NFCC Game is packers vs Saints .....who do we root for (and must assume Brees is healthy , can’t use Teddy B as an excuse 😀)

I just think I wouldn’t watch
That's an awful question, and I refuse to partake in this discussion.
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Dames wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:22 am
VikingPaul73 wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:04 pm I’m watching the packers game tonight and thought of a very difficult question that I don’t know how to answer

If the NFCC Game is packers vs Saints .....who do we root for (and must assume Brees is healthy , can’t use Teddy B as an excuse 😀)

I just think I wouldn’t watch
That's an awful question, and I refuse to partake in this discussion.
Yea like why ask this bs?
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Dmizzle0 wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:25 am
Dames wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:22 am
That's an awful question, and I refuse to partake in this discussion.
Yea like why ask this bs?
Right.

Well, okay... if I have to answer. I would pick the Saints, but only for Brees and Teddy. Brees is a pretty good guy, and we all love Teddy. I guess I would rather hear about how great the Saints are all year instead of how great the Packers/Rodgers are.... even though I think Payton is an ####. (Donkey Hat)
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The playoff picture is taking some shape, but it is far from definitive. The Vikings are currently #4 in the NFC, but I would argue that we are undervalued. The top 4 NFC teams are SF, GB, NO, and us.

Consider this:

NO has played a single divisional game, at home vs. the Bucs. (They won.)
SF has also only played a single divisional game, on the road vs. the Rams. (They won.)
GB has played three divisional games, going 3-0, but only one of those games was on the road.
We've played three divisional games going 1-2, but all 3 of our games were on the road.

Very easy to see that of the four we've faced by far the most daunting schedule. This mix will change in the coming 6 weeks.

I'm not sold on SF. You look at who they have beaten and the only signature win is on the road against the Rams in week 2. I don't put a lot of stock in head to head wins in SEP amongst playoff teams.

NO is similar. Most wins are versus pretender teams. Nice road win in SEA though.

GB is a bit different. They've feasted on wimpy teams and been lucky against the better teams on their schedule. No Mahomes in KC, Referee assisted victory vs. Lions. They got us in week 2 when the offense wasn't clicking. I like our chances vs them in our house. The issue here though is we need them to lose at least one more than us so we can knock them out for good or we at best will be a 5 seed. The Lions might not have anything to play for in week 17.
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Dmizzle0 wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:25 am
Dames wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:22 am
That's an awful question, and I refuse to partake in this discussion.
Yea like why ask this bs?
It has created a discussion that people are partaking in. In other words, the same reason anybody says any of their bs on here.
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mansquatch wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:34 am The playoff picture is taking some shape, but it is far from definitive. The Vikings are currently #4 in the NFC, but I would argue that we are undervalued. The top 4 NFC teams are SF, GB, NO, and us.

Consider this:

NO has played a single divisional game, at home vs. the Bucs. (They won.)
SF has also only played a single divisional game, on the road vs. the Rams. (They won.)
GB has played three divisional games, going 3-0, but only one of those games was on the road.
We've played three divisional games going 1-2, but all 3 of our games were on the road.

Very easy to see that of the four we've faced by far the most daunting schedule. This mix will change in the coming 6 weeks.

I'm not sold on SF. You look at who they have beaten and the only signature win is on the road against the Rams in week 2. I don't put a lot of stock in head to head wins in SEP amongst playoff teams.

NO is similar. Most wins are versus pretender teams. Nice road win in SEA though.

GB is a bit different. They've feasted on wimpy teams and been lucky against the better teams on their schedule. No Mahomes in KC, Referee assisted victory vs. Lions. They got us in week 2 when the offense wasn't clicking. I like our chances vs them in our house. The issue here though is we need them to lose at least one more than us so we can knock them out for good or we at best will be a 5 seed. The Lions might not have anything to play for in week 17.
GB just drives me insane. I still dont think they are all that good but the media will keep pumping the air into that ball. I wouldnt be surprised at all if Mahomes is back this weak vs the Vikes. But of course, the one game he has to miss is vs. GB. I literally hate everything about that team
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I don't think the Packers make it that far. The Saints could.

If it came down to the 2, though, I'll root for the representative of the NFC North, especially if said representative was the team that sent the Vikings home.
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Pondering Her Percy wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 12:19 pm GB just drives me insane. I still dont think they are all that good but the media will keep pumping the air into that ball. I wouldnt be surprised at all if Mahomes is back this weak vs the Vikes. But of course, the one game he has to miss is vs. GB. I literally hate everything about that team
If Mahomes is back, he won't be 100%. He'll be favoring the knee and one sack or hit might send him back to the sidelines.

KC needs the win bad now that they lost to the Packers, though, so I think they might force him back.

For some reason, I'm not all that worried about KC, Mahomes or no Mahomes. I don't think their defense is all that good, and I think the Vikings will be able to move and score on them. As to whether KC can move and score on the Vikings, they probably can, but I still think the Vikings have better matchups against KC when the Vikings are on defense. Provided the Vikings execute well, I think they can limit KC, especially if Mahomes isn't 100%.
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Pondering Her Percy wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 12:19 pm GB just drives me insane. I still dont think they are all that good but the media will keep pumping the air into that ball. I wouldnt be surprised at all if Mahomes is back this weak vs the Vikes. But of course, the one game he has to miss is vs. GB. I literally hate everything about that team
There is a reasonable argument that two to three of their wins were luck. No way they win in KC if Mahomes is playing. Ref's won them the game vs. DET. Even the SNF crew called that one out. Refs helped in the game vs. us, but I'm not sure the week 2 iteration of our passing game wins that game even if the Cook penalty doesn't happen. Week 9 Iteration is a different story.

They definitely have the feel of a playoff pretender this year. The NFC Wild Card teams will be very tough this season depending on how the NFC W plays out. I can see them getting a ton of hype and then getting dismantled in the playoffs by one of the wildcard teams. I think SF kind of feels the same way, their first 8 games were pathetically easy in terms of opposition. I suspect they'll get bloodied in their division some.

The Saints have history and Drew Brees/Sean Peyton, so I'm going to call them pretenders. I'm not sure they are that much difference from the team last year, though We played them very tough losing due to two bad turnovers by our WR. If we draw them I think we can compete. We'll know much more about NO in the next 6 weeks when they get into their divisional slugfest. NFC S is down this year, but those will be hard fought games. If Saints come out of that with only 1 loss they are legit. If they drop 2-3 then we can question them as well.

Coming back to the Packers, I think our road to an NFC bye week really goes through them. We win the division with a better overall record. If it is tied, then it will be best Win Loss in Division. This is where the CHI loss hurts us. I think we end up 4-2, but GB might end up 5-1. Then we are out.

This is what worries me, I'm not sure they will lose enough games for us to catch them. Sure they have 5 road games coming up, but one is against the Giants. This week they play LAC which is a "pseudo" road game. My hope is that Rivers will decided to show up and beat them, but I have my doubts. They do have a game against SF on the road which should be good. They also play the Panthers, but that is in GB. I'm hoping they lose both of these, but even one would help. They have to face us at home which is a game I think we'll win. They also have to play the Bears again, but that is also in GB. Week 17 they play in DET, but I think at that point the Lions will have nothing to play for. (It already feels like they are done with Keryon Johnson going to IR.)

We need them to lose at least one and preferably two before they get to us. Then we can slap them down and take the division. Them losing two is the ideal number, then we have a one game cushion which I think we'll need as I think we got 2-1 against KC/DAL/SEA. If we lose this week in KC, I think we are a Wild Card team due to the softness of GB's schedule. Good news is we are on a huge win streak and I wonder if KC will risk Mahomes against our Defense. Their division sucks so I think they can afford the L. Let's hope Andy Reid agrees.
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mansquatch wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:34 am The playoff picture is taking some shape, but it is far from definitive. The Vikings are currently #4 in the NFC, but I would argue that we are undervalued. The top 4 NFC teams are SF, GB, NO, and us.

Consider this:

NO has played a single divisional game, at home vs. the Bucs. (They won.)
SF has also only played a single divisional game, on the road vs. the Rams. (They won.)
GB has played three divisional games, going 3-0, but only one of those games was on the road.
We've played three divisional games going 1-2, but all 3 of our games were on the road.

Very easy to see that of the four we've faced by far the most daunting schedule. This mix will change in the coming 6 weeks.

I'm not sold on SF. You look at who they have beaten and the only signature win is on the road against the Rams in week 2. I don't put a lot of stock in head to head wins in SEP amongst playoff teams.

NO is similar. Most wins are versus pretender teams. Nice road win in SEA though.

GB is a bit different. They've feasted on wimpy teams and been lucky against the better teams on their schedule. No Mahomes in KC, Referee assisted victory vs. Lions. They got us in week 2 when the offense wasn't clicking. I like our chances vs them in our house. The issue here though is we need them to lose at least one more than us so we can knock them out for good or we at best will be a 5 seed. The Lions might not have anything to play for in week 17.
I get what you are saying about divisional games, but outside of those three games, the Vikings schedule has been pretty easy.

Prior to the Skins game, the Vikings had the 20th hardest schedule behind the Packers at 18.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/championin ... eek-8/amp/

The Saints actually have had the 4th hardest schedule, and their only loss came in a game their starting QB got hurt in.

They will go 6-0 in their division assuming their last game matters and are going to have home field advantage throughout the playoffs after they knockoff the 9ers in December.

They are the team to beat in the NFC and are going to win the Super Bowl because the NFL will do every thing they can to make sure they don't get screwed again. That includes screwing over another team to help them out. It sucks.
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In this scenario, Saints beat Packers then lose in the SB after a bad PI call and Payton has no challenges left.
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