Wide reciever trade

[Jordysghost]

I watched the Miami Hard Knocks and that staff is strange. The HC is a control freak who seems like he would be a better fit running an accounting firm than
coaching an NFL team. The team just didn't seem to listen to what the coaches were saying or respect them, at all.

That would be Philibin, Packers former OC. I never saw Philibin as a HC and it was kinda odd seeing him when he took over at Miami. Hes actually done a pretty decent job buildin what maybe could be a budding contender though, the Dolphins look like they have alot of talent imo, and I have always been a fan of Tannehill.

[DK Sweets]

Yup, the 5th round compensation didn't mean jack when it comes to wallaces value. He didn't get along with the coaches or qb there, they wanted to get outta his contract while getting a draft pick for him

But if he was worth more than that, why didn't anybody else offer more?

My main point is this: WRs are valued so low that even very talented receivers like Wallace or Brandon Marshall can be moved for low compensation if they have any red flags. The other receivers may not have these same red flags, but they don't have the same level of talent, either. I think we could expect roughly the same value because both sides of the equation would balance out.

If we could get some real compensation, that would be great. It just doesn't seem like that is the way the league is trending right now.

[S197]

But if he was worth more than that, why didn't anybody else offer more?

I think some of it had to do with taking over a hefty contract but yeah your point stands, his market value was a 5th. It wasn't an exclusive trade between two teams, everyone can make an offer and it's highly unlikely you turn down a better deal unless it's from a division rival.

[Mothman]

I think some of it had to do with taking over a hefty contract but yeah your point stands, his market value was a 5th. It wasn't an exclusive trade between two teams, everyone can make an offer and it's highly unlikely you turn down a better deal unless it's from a division rival.

I think his contract had a LOT do with it. He's due to make almost $10 million this season. That inevitably impacted trade compensation.

[fiestavike]

How about we trade CP, Robert Blanton and a 3rd for Cam Chancellor? Would anybody object?

[dead_poet]

How about we trade CP, Robert Blanton and a 3rd for Cam Chancellor? Would anybody object?

Two considerations: 1) he's the eighth-highest safety already and wants more money & as it stands has a contract approaching $17 the next three seasons 2) Harrison Smith needs a contract extension that will make him easily top-10 safety money. I can't imagine the Vikings tying that much cash into the position even if a Chancellor/Smith safety tandem would be pretty sick.

[fiestavike]

Two considerations: 1) he's the eighth-highest safety already and wants more money & as it stands has a contract approaching $17 the next three seasons 2) Harrison Smith needs a contract extension that will make him easily top-10 safety money. I can't imagine the Vikings tying that much cash into the position even if a Chancellor/Smith safety tandem would be pretty sick.

Good considerations. I would point out that the vikings don't have to pay much for the QB the next few years, and LBs should be on rookie deals another couple years. Also, moving on from Loadholt/Greenway/Newman/Robison could save some coin.

[Purple bruise]

How about we trade CP, Robert Blanton and a 3rd for Cam Chancellor? Would anybody object?

Just the Sea Hawks would object. Not even close enough trade value but I would love to see that happen!!

[jackal]

too much to give for Cam. We already need to pay Smith and if we have to pay Cam too
that would be a lot of money at one spot. Good tandem though

[VikingPaul73]

Just because we got Wallace for a 5th doesn't really mean anything. He had 10 tds last year. The guy can obviously play. He was just a problem in Miami and didn't mesh with that offense so Spielman low balled them and gave up the least he possibly could. He knew Miami was desperate to get rid of him for cap reasons and the fact that they were rebuilding their WR corps. If he was a "good teammate" and had a QB that could get him the deep ball, he would have gone for much better than a 5th, I can just about guarantee that

I wonder if there was any off-record agreements with that trade, such as, "if Cooper, White, or Parker fall to you, you don't take them"

[VikingPaul73]

My point was the most talented receiver on this roster was just traded this offseason for a fifth round pick, our second best receiver was signed off the Browns practice squad three weeks into last season. If any team was interested they could have paid him peanuts at any point before that. And the reason he was signed, was how poorly another of our receivers played....none of these things points to any sort of market for all this talent and depth we supposedly have at the position.

good point. very good point.
that said, I am still optimistic, maybe just my pathetic purple goggles. And I think Diggs will be very very good.

[VikingPaul73]

I think the others are looking at more of a poker hand situation. Not what the cards actually are, but what the other player is believes they are.

I wouldn't be against a trade for a guy that we have three guys who are capable of starting ...

third round pick maybe ??

I think maybe you can make this argument for CJ, but not for Wallace. Wallace is a known quantity and you have to factor in attitude and effort into the overall package.