What are your expectations for Teddy this season?

Post by **dead_poet** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 8:44 am

I was thinking about this this morning. With Vikings fans (rightfully) desperate for a "franchise quarterback" and Teddy's promising rookie season in the books, what are your expectations of him in 2015? I guess I worry that he may be getting Viking faithful's expectations up pretty high and a few games of under 250 passing yards with a a couple of turnovers may start to sour the well early, which I really want to avoid and I'm hoping people give him a chance even if he has some rough games. So have at it, VMBers. I'll try to remember to bring this thread back up at the end of the season.

What do you realistically expect?
What do you realistically hope for?
What would disappoint you?

Assuming a 16-game season

My take:

Expect: 3,421 passing yards, 66.5% completion, 7.7 YPA, 25 TDs, 9 INTs, 93.4 QBR
Hope: 4,045 passing yards, 68.7% completion, 8.2 YPA, 32 TDs, 6 INTs, 105.5 QBR
Disappoint: 3,046 passing yards, 63.1% completion, 18 TDs, 12 INTs, 78.5 QBR

My expectations are that he develops into a top-15 QB (which is what the numbers generally reflect if judging the last couple of seasons quarterbacks have had). My hope would bring him more into a top-5 conversation (which I believe are too lofty for the second-year QB, which is why they're a hope). My disappointment reflects a regression and would be on par (or slightly above) second-year Christian Ponder.

Crax · Post by **Crax** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 8:58 am

dead_poet wrote: My expectations are that he develops into a top-15 QB

Same for me. I'm hoping he can be ranked about 9-12 overall. Right there at the bottom of the top 10 is what I'm hoping for

frosted · Post by **frosted** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:39 am

dead_poet wrote:I was thinking about this this morning. With Vikings fans (rightfully) desperate for a "franchise quarterback" and Teddy's promising rookie season in the books, what are your expectations of him in 2015? I guess I worry that he may be getting Viking faithful's expectations up pretty high and a few games of under 250 passing yards with a a couple of turnovers may start to sour the well early, which I really want to avoid and I'm hoping people give him a chance even if he has some rough games. So have at it, VMBers. I'll try to remember to bring this thread back up at the end of the season.

What do you realistically expect?
What do you realistically hope for?
What would disappoint you?

Assuming a 16-game season

My take:

Expect: 3,421 passing yards, 66.5% completion, 7.7 YPA, 25 TDs, 9 INTs, 93.4 QBR
Hope: 4,045 passing yards, 68.7% completion, 8.2 YPA, 32 TDs, 6 INTs, 105.5 QBR
Disappoint: 3,046 passing yards, 63.1% completion, 18 TDs, 12 INTs, 78.5 QBR

My expectations are that he develops into a top-15 QB (which is what the numbers generally reflect if judging the last couple of seasons quarterbacks have had). My hope would bring him more into a top-5 conversation (which I believe are too lofty for the second-year QB, which is why they're a hope). My disappointment reflects a regression and would be on par (or slightly above) second-year Christian Ponder.

Those are some high expectations my friend.

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Post by **dead_poet** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:44 am

frosted wrote:Those are some high expectations my friend.

Are they? And here I was trying to be reasonable.

What are yours?

mansquatch · Post by **mansquatch** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:01 am

I'm with you Poet, but there is so much that is going to develop between now and September.

Post by **Cliff** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:06 am

If you take the average of Teddy's last 6 games and extrapolate them out over 16 games you get this;
3840 passing yards, 69.21% completion, 8.2 YPA, 26.6 TDs, 16 INTs, 101.25 QBR

I expect 3500 Passing yards, 67% completion, 7.0 YPA, 25 TDs, 12 INT
I hope for 4000+, 69% completion, 8.0 YPA, 30 TDs, 7 INTs, 100+ QBR
I'd be disappointed @ 3000- yards, 60%- completion, 18 TDs, 15+ INT, 75- QBR

losperros · Post by **losperros** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:09 am

dead_poet wrote:My take:

Expect: 3,421 passing yards, 66.5% completion, 7.7 YPA, 25 TDs, 9 INTs, 93.4 QBR
Hope: 4,045 passing yards, 68.7% completion, 8.2 YPA, 32 TDs, 6 INTs, 105.5 QBR
Disappoint: 3,046 passing yards, 63.1% completion, 18 TDs, 12 INTs, 78.5 QBR

My expectations are that he develops into a top-15 QB (which is what the numbers generally reflect if judging the last couple of seasons quarterbacks have had). My hope would bring him more into a top-5 conversation (which I believe are too lofty for the second-year QB, which is why they're a hope). My disappointment reflects a regression and would be on par (or slightly above) second-year Christian Ponder.

My expectations are that I don't know what to expect right now.

If I take a guess, they would be a combination of your "expect" and "disappoint."

I think Teddy has a brilliant future ahead of him, but I'd first like to know if AD is coming back and (maybe most importantly) I want to see how the OL plays.

Post by **Mothman** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:10 am

My expectations are pretty modest. I'd love to see him put up top 15 numbers in an overall sense (in other words, rank that high in most major statistical categories) but that's not something I necessarily expect to happen in his second season. Mainly, I'm hoping to see him take further command of the offense, reduce mistakes and lead the Vikes to more points. They simply did not score effectively enough last season. Over 16 games, if he continues to progress, I'd expect about 20-22 TDs, 10-12 INTs and about 3500 yards as a realistic expectation. I'd be happy if he does better than that and somewhat disappointed if he does much worse.

Hopefully, we'll see progress. I definitely expect a better season from him in year 2 but I assume we'll see continued growing pains too.

Post by **dead_poet** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:17 am

mansquatch wrote:I'm with you Poet, but there is so much that is going to develop between now and September.

True, but I don't know if adding Amari Cooper (for example) will necessarily change my perceptions and expectations. Same for retaining (or losing) Peterson. I thought it'd be a fun exercise at this point in the offseason. I kind of just wanted to know where people's heads are at as far as what they're expecting from the guy and so far, it seems reasonable

. Too bad we can't give out prizes or something for whoever gets closest to his true numbers by the end of the season. That'd be fun.

Post by **dead_poet** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:20 am

Cliff wrote:If you take the average of Teddy's last 6 games and extrapolate them out over 16 games you get this;
3840 passing yards, 69.21% completion, 8.2 YPA, 26.6 TDs, 16 INTs, 101.25 QBR

I'd take that.

I expect 3500 Passing yards, 67% completion, 7.0 YPA, 25 TDs, 12 INT
I hope for 4000+, 69% completion, 8.0 YPA, 30 TDs, 7 INTs, 100+ QBR
I'd be disappointed @ 3000- yards, 60%- completion, 18 TDs, 15+ INT, 75- QBR

Your hope is better than my hope.

frosted · Post by **frosted** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:46 am

dead_poet wrote: Are they? And here I was trying to be reasonable.

What are yours?

I suppose I'm just trying to temper my expectations because I have been let down so much in my sports fandom. I would expect 20-23 TDs, 12-14 INTs, 64% completion, and hopefully between 7.3 and 7.5 YPA. Maybe 3300 yards. I expect us to be run heavy with Adrian in the backfield.

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Post by **dead_poet** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:52 am

frosted wrote:I suppose I'm just trying to temper my expectations because I have been let down so much in my sports fandom.

A wise approach. I feel you.

I would expect 20-23 TDs, 12-14 INTs, 64% completion, and hopefully between 7.3 and 7.5 YPA. Maybe 3300 yards. I expect us to be run heavy with Adrian in the backfield.

A bit more conservative than me, but not overly so. Hopefully he surpasses them, by a lot!

Purple bruise · Post by **Purple bruise** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:53 am

I fully expect him to be a top 10-15 QB but a whole lot depends on how healthy the O-line is/remains. I think that even if there are no more additions to the receivers they are more than capable and of course the "wild card" is the return of AD.

Grashopa · Post by **Grashopa** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:54 am

Here are my hopes and expecations:

3,262 passing yards, 63.2% completion, 8.0 YPA, 23 TDs, 11 INTs, 95.0 QBR

These are the averages from QBs who won the Super Bowl in their sophmore season. (since 2000)

frosted · Post by **frosted** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 11:02 am

dead_poet wrote: A wise approach. I feel you.
A bit more conservative than me, but not overly so. Hopefully he surpasses them, by a lot!

Absolutely! If Peterson is back, I would guess it would help Teddy a lot, so even if we went more run heavy, his efficiency would probably be positively impacted.

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